Posts by Heaven

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Please change my username, Simon =)

by Divergent in

hi simon, sorry to disturb, but i would appreciate it very much if you could kindly change my username for me - from just kidding to divergent.

i've decided to change my username because i'm not the same person i was when i first joined this site.

back then, a part of me still believed, and i thought that if my doubts were wrong and the religion actually turns out to be true and i posted negative stuff here... hey, i was only just kidding!!!.

Heaven

Congrats Divergent. Looks like Simon has worked his magic... again.

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Islam is the Epitome of Misogyny

by cofty in

in this video the popular saudi cleric sheik yahya al-jana discusses the joys of paradise, saying that men will have the strength of a hundred men in paradise and will be busy tearing hymens, while the virgins of paradise, whose breasts are like pomegranates, become virgins every time again.. the cleric also explains it is mostly men who enter paradise noting that women in general are bad because they refuse to wear the veil, they wear tight clothes in shopping malls, put on perfume and jewelry, and use filthy social media platforms.

source.... this is what young men from conservative muslim families are raised on.

is it any wonder islamic countries treat women appallingly?.

Heaven

VI, I noticed that logic problem right off as well.

The phrase 'religious nutbaggery' comes to mind.

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Cult or Religion

by Richard C B in

what is a cult and what is a religion?

its open to debate.

who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

Heaven

Regarding the question "What is a cult?", this can generally be answered 'any group who wishes to abnormally and adversely control people'. I think Steven Hassan's BITE model is one that can assist anyone needing to identify a group as a 'cult' or high mind control.

I have to agree that most, if not all, religions do have cult tendencies, some being definitely worse than others. Cults encompass more that just religious groups. They can be non-religious in nature as well. Again, Steven Hassan has quite a list of groups that qualify on his website.

Regarding Jesus, everything ever written about him came from someone who never met him. The authors of the gospels can't even agree on the accounts of his life. Jesus himself wrote nothing down.

There were a lot of Messiahs back in these ancient times. Did Jesus of Nazareth actually exist? It is possible. But there is no record of this. There is far more physical evidence supporting the existence of the Philistines than Jesus. Bart Ehrman says Paul's letters indicate Jesus existed. Ehrman also says Jesus was an apocalyptic rabi who thought god was going to fix everything in his lifetime. Obviously this did not pan out. Did he walk on water? Did he rise from the dead 3 days later? Was he a man who became a god? No. This is pure fantasy.

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Are logos evil?

by goddidit in

i have a vague memory of jws having some objection to logos of some kind in the past, which might be a contradiction to the recent addition of the jw.org logo.. please can someone enlighten me on what their stance used to be regarding logos?.

Heaven

Anything not from the Borg is highly suspect in JWs' eyes.The demunz are lurking around everything not sanctioned by Botchtower.

You should have seen my Dad's reaction to my Hobby Farm Home Magazine. It was very weird indeed, looking at it with high suspicion. <sarcasm> Yeah, the evil just oozes from this magazine. </sarcasm>.

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Saved

by Stephanie Twist in

how can a person be saved?

do jw believe that we are saved through the blood of jesus?

bible verses?

Heaven

For me it would be a really, well buffed fire fighter.

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I need help finding 2 specific Awake or Watchtower articles from 70's or 80's regarding converting homosexuals.

by paul from cleveland in

i remember reading at least 2 articles from the 70's or early 80's referencing people that supposedly changed from gay to straight while jehovah's witnesses.

i can't remember the specifics or maybe i was just reading that into the article at the time.

does anyone remember these articles or something similar?.

Heaven

Hi Paul ... hope you are well.

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JWs and Education

by cognac in

jw
friends

my parents were always of the belief that, "the end is right around the corner".. i was a zealous kid, with a learning disorder, so my parents never gave me a hard time or pushed me in regards to my education.. this not only hurt me, but, pissed me off insanely.

fast forward to me having my own kid.

ava is not doing well in school.

Heaven

Cognac, I am glad you are engaged in your daughter's learning and education and that you are getting her assessed. She sounds like she may have ADD. My nephew had/has this. He is super smart but had a lot of difficulty staying focused when he was younger.

Learning is a human need. I think it needs to be fun too.

I had a little trouble when I was young with some math formulas. Sometimes our brains are not always wired to deal with certain things that other people find easy. For me, when I find something difficult, I try to come up with a method to remember or figure it out. Spelling is one where I use a little song or poem or technique to help me figure it out.

Example... the word lieutenant. I struggled with the spelling of this word. Then, one day, I thought "Hey! This word can be broken up into a little funny phrase.... "Lie U Tenant". Hah!" I've never had difficulty with it since.

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Yippee bro lesh just gave me permission to love my disfelowshipped friends.

by poopie in

jw
friends

not that i needed the gbs permission but i will take it anyway.

dureing the jw tv show i almost spit out my popcorn when he said jw can even show love to non witnesses then it dawned on me df people are not witnesses because the anouncment states they are no longer jw so now its official technically you can show love to non witnesses out of his own mouth thank you bro lesh now i have your permissiion to do what god and jesus do ha ha .

Heaven

Good catch poopie. The down side is, the GB will probably close that loop hole very quickly with another nu-lite amendment.

Edited to add: Why is it, every time I see Losch's and Lett's names I hear 'douche' and 'letch' in my head?

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Are The Governing Body Anointed?

by freemindfade in

for any lurkers, i just want to put a thought out there for you.

like me maybe during your life as a jw the "thing" that causes someone to know if they are anointed was always a bit of mystery, except to those who claimed they knew.

i had heard it explained to me many ways, and like many things i just said "ok, well thats an answer... i guess".

Heaven

Annointed = Delusions of grandeur... and nothing more.

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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

Heaven

prologos said: you are so broad*** minded, the wt teaches the bible was written only for the anointed. there are 4 billion men, but only 7 confirmed of them.
*** in the sense of broadway. not the ladies on it.

I was gonna say I'm a broad (as in woman) but not THAT broad (as in wide)... um, but anyway...

Oh right, yes, the, <cough> annointed. I find it interesting that they still hand out litter-a-trash that offers free Bible studies. If the Bible was only written for the annointed, why are their membership studying it then and why do they still offer free Bible Studies to Joe or Jane Public? This makes no sense.