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  Ashley Madison hack data dump on the net

  by MaybeSo in

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  2. scandals

  some jws will be on the list?

  would you bring it up if you saw someone you know in there?

  in the meantime, i'll be back... got to see if my credit card has been opened longer than i've been married to say it was back when i was single.

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  Heaven

  So where is this actual list? Can it get posted here?
  
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  Jackson Vs Lett and Morris: Pedophile Fiasco

  by BashfulAshG in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so jackson admits that there's a problem in the jw community with pedophiles, but lett says that it isn't true that jw are permissive to pedophiles.

  also, morris says that jws where ahead of the game with the 1980s watchtower by blaming homosexuals for pedophilia.

  hmm...seems legit.

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  Heaven

  I think one of the problems this group is about to or is already facing is a pool of 'qualified' men to lead it.

  If elders and MS's are stepping down, if people leave, they'll have no one to run the Borg. So what happens in this case? They have to lower their standards to allow for a broader group of men to lead. They may even have to issue nu-lite that 'the women' can now be appointed.

  ( Just as an aside, that term 'the women' grates on my nerves like there's no tomorrow! )
  
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  Royal Commission of institutions into child sexual Abuse in Australia.

  by smiddy in

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  2. child-abuse

  by their own admission the jehovah`s witnesses have acknowledged to the royal commission that 1006 child sex abuse cases against members of their religion have been handled in house.. 1006 cases over 65 years , equals to more than one , every month , every month , every year , for the next 65 years.. a judicial committee consists of 3 elders ,so 3 elders handled 1006 sexual abuse cases over 65 years equals 3018 elders who know about this abuse and never contacted the authorities .either police or ,child protection services .. what sort of morals or ethics do these so called christians have ?.

  smiddy.

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  I think that it is becoming very clear in all this that the GB's use of the Bible and Holy Spirit isn't working.

  These men need the secular authorities to enact mandatory reporting of child sexual abuse to force them to do the morally upright thing.
  
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  Jehovah's Witness Leader: There's a 'Spiritual Dilemma' in Reporting Sexual Abuse

  by defender of truth in

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  2. child-abuse

  the article is a good summary to show people who are too busy to read the transcript.

  the main points are covered, without jackson's waffling... this is my favourite quote:.

  jackson also testified that while there havent been any particular discussion among church leadership about apologizing to victims of sexual abuse, its perceivable that they might consider doing so.

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  Heaven

  The GB wants secular authorities to make reporting child abuse mandatory to help the GB do the right thing. This is key right here.
  

  After that, all bets are off unless it is a law that victims must be compensated. The GB will do nothing that they said they would consider unless there is a law stating they must.
  
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  i feel more confused than ever

  by BlackWolf in

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  2. friends

  well i know i've been posting a lot of topics like this lately and i'm sorry if i sound whiny or annoying.

  my parents were asking me why i was so upset lately and i ended up just telling them the whole truth.

  i told them i don't believe in god or the bible because i don't have any evidence of anything.

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  BlackWolf, Armageddon isn't coming so don't worry about that.

  I am 52 years old. I was told Armageddon was coming 'soon' , 'imminently', 'it's just around the corner' when I was a child, a teenager, and a young adult.

  I am now a middle aged woman and Armageddon has not yet arrived. What do you think the odds are that it is coming soon knowing this?

  If I told you I was coming over to your house 'soon' and in 52 years I never once showed up at your place, would you continue to believe that I was coming soon?

  Jehovah's Witnesses, and their former group the Bible Students, have been saying Armageddon is coming soon for over 100 years. Obviously, this is a lie.
  
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  GB member Geoffrey Jackson is lying!

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  okay, i know the royal commission hasn't started yet.

  but i'm confident enough that he will be telling some whoppers.

  so i thought i'd be the first to get a thread started for something that will begin... very soon now!.

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  Welcome Alcyone!

  Billy, we all bow to your true prophet-ability. ;0)

  One of the things that comes to the fore through all of this is that whilst Jehovah's Witnesses claim they attempt to be morally higher than everyone else and ensure they have clean congregations in reality fail miserably at both of these.

  They need the secular authorities to force them to report the sexual abuse of a child because their interpretation of an ancient scripture is prohibiting them to do this.
  

  What does that say about the Bible? This foundational book these people use, supposedly from God Almighty himself, is holding them back from doing the morally upright thing.

  It boggles the mind.

  Do you think Geoffrey Jackson suffers from cognitive dissonance after this?
  
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  GJackson Hopes to ask Jesus a question in the future-Will He?

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

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  2. beliefs

  geoffrey jackson said in answer to this question during his testimony before the royal commission:.

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=5d6d5636-001a-4e8e-84b2-2d8338ec25fa&type=transcriptpdf&filename=transcript-(day-155)&fileextension=pdf.

  34 q. is it not the case that had jesus been asked about.

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  How does one ask a dead person a question?

  How does a dead person ask another dead person a question?

  Jackson will never ask Jesus of Nazareth a question. If Jesus did exist, he died a long time ago.
  
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  New picture...about time...sorry for bat gravatar

  by blondie in

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  if only it was so easy to change our looks in real life........

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  Heaven

  Oh I like the new one! Was wondering what happened to the old one.
  
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  John Oliver starts a new church ...

  by EdenOne in

  1. social
  2. humour

  here's john oliver's take on how easy it is for religions to fleece vulnerable people in the us.

  i had a few good laughs, but it's seriously disturbing at the same time.

  read the article, but don't miss the video, it's hilarious.. john oliver sets up his new church.

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  Hilarious! There's a sucker born every minute. I do not get why these frauds are legal. I gotta send this to a friend of mine. He'll love it. He told me about Peter Popoff and his Miracle Spring Water. All of these jerks pray on vulnerable, naive, and gullible people.
  
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  I am traveling long way to meet stephen lett in sacramento would you like me to lgive message to him

  by poopie in

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  this weekend

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  Heaven

  Yeah, I have a message for him.

  Tell him that while my parents were hood winked by this organization, me and my brothers, thanks to the public education system, were able to develop enough critical thinking skills to see that the Watchtower turns kind and loving people into mean spirited, holier-than-thou, self-righteous a-holes. None of us, and none of our kids are interested in this karma. Also, the known child abuser that was in my parent's previous congregation is still an active member. There is no way your organization can be of God, chosen by God, nor is directed by God.