That doesn't surprise me Morpheus. I think a lot of people do not come forward. I can tell you as a child in this religion, I definitely learned what not to talk about with my parents._Morpheus said: as for the elders hearing these things and being affected.. I served 10 years and never heard a case of child molestation. There were never any REPORTED in my congregation, not to suggest they didnt occur.
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by Viviane invincent tool said that he is exclusively working the phones for child abuse cases, but never said he is not the only one.
for now, let's assume the rate of abuse cases averages over time to the three or four cases he gets per month.
let's further assume that, since he isn't the only person working the phones and is on vacation at some point, the number is 4-5 per month, or 4.5 per month.
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We can now estimate the absolute minimum number of child abuse cases
by Viviane invincent tool said that he is exclusively working the phones for child abuse cases, but never said he is not the only one.
for now, let's assume the rate of abuse cases averages over time to the three or four cases he gets per month.
let's further assume that, since he isn't the only person working the phones and is on vacation at some point, the number is 4-5 per month, or 4.5 per month.
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fmf said: I know that pedo's come from all walks of life and beliefs, but I wonder if there is something about the religious institutions that draws them?
Just from my understanding of JW world, there is a level of trust that is given without any checks once a person is in. It is the worldly people, one's outside the group that are suspect, NOT the ones within. This is PERFECT for pedos. AND to top it off, in the JW religion, all you have to do is be repentant and you're allowed to stay and do it all over again.
OC, you make a very valid observation about feeding the cycle. Makes you wonder if many of the elders on the committees are also pedos. Not sure how these guys can stomach this stuff.
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Did I hear right, the Judge said he wanted to see a member of the GB to testify????????
by notoneoftheboys incan you help me here is what i have asked correct?
this means a serious issue faces the gb, but odds are they will not attend!
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You know there is something very wrong with a group when their leaders avoid situations such as this. If they really had the Truth, they wouldn't be afraid.
That says boat loads to everyone, JW or non-JW.
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Is the Commisioner aware that there are internal rules vs what they are being given?
by thedepressedsoul ini have been following the events taken place in australia and i cannot help but notice that the jw's are feeding them a bunch of bull.
it reminds me of the faq on jw.org.
we all know there is a very different internal view/teaching than the jw.org faq would lead you to believe.
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We can now estimate the absolute minimum number of child abuse cases
by Viviane invincent tool said that he is exclusively working the phones for child abuse cases, but never said he is not the only one.
for now, let's assume the rate of abuse cases averages over time to the three or four cases he gets per month.
let's further assume that, since he isn't the only person working the phones and is on vacation at some point, the number is 4-5 per month, or 4.5 per month.
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I sent this to Angus Stewart this morning (Easter Standard Time)
by Viviane ini just sent this email to angus stewart:.
i hope this email finds you well.
i would like to say thank you for your work on the royal commission, particularly in your handling of the jehovah's witnesses elders and experts during questioning.
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The Australian: Women to 'Never Rule' in Jehovah's church
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/women-to-never-rule-in-jehovahs-church/story-fn3dxiwe-1227470092202.
august 4, 2015 annette blackwell.
a jehovah's witness official says the church's stance to never let women hold decision-making roles compares to muslim and aboriginal people adhering to their own ancient beliefs.
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The GB almost braggingly state they 'lovingly provide spiritual food at the proper time'. And yet they cannot go to a Royal Commission hearing to braggingly testify to this?
Something is rotten in the state of Denmark... uuuh... I mean, Australia.
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Did you hear that!? His Honour is insisting that Jackson attend the Royal Commission
by umbertoecho ini actually started clapping at that point, as his honour explained to the wt type creep sycophantic slithery lawyer that........" i understand that we all have issues to face in life and .....that is a part of life...........however it has become obvious that this man ....is in such a position to assist with this investigation.....".
it boils down to the fact that stewart outright accused the latest witness of misleading the royal commission and this lead to some document searches which led his honour to conclude that they had been protecting mr jackson.
this was a warm and fluffy moment folks.................brilliant stuff!!!!!
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punky way to go! Do we know if there are any Biblical references to acceptable lying? I do not see any scriptures quoted in that Botchtower reference. So if they don't quote scripture, they are just pulling it out of their a$$es.
And sir82, I think you raise a very valid point. There are so many examples of how even the Bible fails when logic and reasoning are applied.
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We can now estimate the absolute minimum number of child abuse cases
by Viviane invincent tool said that he is exclusively working the phones for child abuse cases, but never said he is not the only one.
for now, let's assume the rate of abuse cases averages over time to the three or four cases he gets per month.
let's further assume that, since he isn't the only person working the phones and is on vacation at some point, the number is 4-5 per month, or 4.5 per month.
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Did you hear that!? His Honour is insisting that Jackson attend the Royal Commission
by umbertoecho ini actually started clapping at that point, as his honour explained to the wt type creep sycophantic slithery lawyer that........" i understand that we all have issues to face in life and .....that is a part of life...........however it has become obvious that this man ....is in such a position to assist with this investigation.....".
it boils down to the fact that stewart outright accused the latest witness of misleading the royal commission and this lead to some document searches which led his honour to conclude that they had been protecting mr jackson.
this was a warm and fluffy moment folks.................brilliant stuff!!!!!
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That 'Theocratic Warfare' doesn't seem to be very effective, does it.