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  God's Spirit

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

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  2. friends

  what is god's spirit?

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  i ask this of those who believe in god.

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  Heaven

  If poopsie was still posting, she'd be gettin' out the popcorn:
  
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  plagiarism in the bible- what I have learnt part one

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have recently been studying the myths and legends of other pre- jewish cultures.

  such as babylonian, egyptian and greek.

  these stories and beliefs are all pre dating the writing of the jewish torah and the new testament.

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  Heaven

  purrpurr, it is an excellent activity to check into pre-Biblical history. I find not many religious people do. This is not a very intelligent move on their part. I also find many religious people do not even know the content of their own foundational holy book.

  At some point in the past, someone or a group of someones decided to trot this collection of (73 - apparently strikethrough isn't working on this site) 66 books out as 'the inerrant, true word of God'.

  It all goes downhill from there.
  
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  The visit with elder and wife outcome

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  where to start in regard to my visit with the elder and his wife; a wife who sat mute throughout the discussion.

  they arrived on the dot and we engaged in talk about the weather.

  this could have gone on for some time but i brought it around to the reason for this particular visit.

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  wb said: there are times when I think theology and nailing custard to a wall have much in common.

  I love this statement wb. I find it truly amazing how many hours/days people spend on this sort of tripe when there are real, genuine, tough issues to tackle and solve in this world.
  
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  Help? :(

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i apologize for how rantish this is but please hear me out.

  anyways i'm a 15 year old girl and i've never really wanted to be a jw.

  its just never been something thats made me feel happy or loved.

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  Heaven

  Hi BlackWolf and welcome to the board.

  Wow.... your story resonates with me so much. I was your age when I started doubting. That was back in the late 1970s (yeah, I'm getting older... something the Watchtower said would never happen... hint #1 they are full of it).

  I'll tell you what I did and I hope it helps. I secretly planned my life. It is good you have a goal of Art school. Do not give up on this. Look into how you can accomplish taking this after you graduate 'high school' (or the equivalent). My plan was to go and study Computers in College. And I did it. I just had my 30th career anniversary. There IS life outside of JW-land. ;0)
  

  About money... my folks never saved for my education so I started working as a teenager. I babysat and got a part time job at a convenience store. Whatever you do, start saving your money. There are usually financial programs available to assist students with post-secondary education. I had to get a loan from the government in Ontario, Canada to help with my schooling. But I took it. AND... once I graduated College and got my job, I paid that loan back. One of the key things I did was to move away from home to go to school. It was a fun adventure. I got away from my parents trying to influence me with JW crap. And I got very busy.

  You CAN do this. Start planning now. Look into how you can do this. And have fun!
  
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  New WT video: Like taking money from a baby!

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just when you thought may's jw dot org video featuring wide-eyed cult lunatic gb lett guilting the masses into giving every last dime they have couldn't be topped, your children will now be fed a guilt-inducing cartoon in which they are guilted into giving every last cent they have to the wt cult.

  the wt entitles this one, "give us your money!

  even your children are to be shaken down!

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  Is this video for real? I don't see it on their websites (tv dot JW dot org or jw dot org).
  
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  Witnesses called for a bible study

  by umbertoecho in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello all.. i haven't been here for some time to post as mainly i read the comments and such.

  yesterday was a really interesting, unnerving experience though.

  two sisters had called last week when i had an abscess on my tooth and was sort of sick from it.

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  My mother told me my eternal life was in peril because I didn't go door to door.

  I asked her to point out the scripture that states handing out Watchtower and Awake! magazines and convincing people to join the Jehovah's Witnesses is the definition of works that would ensure I had eternal life.

  She was unable to do so. And was quite annoyed. Typical.
  
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  The flat earth conspiracy!

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok. let me first start by saying i am not a flat earther.

  i like most on here will have the same view most will have here about our planet.

  in saying that however, i am incredibly gob smacked by the book written by eric dubay called 'the flat earth conspiracy'.

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  Heaven

  If you've never watched the original series 'Cosmos' by Carl Sagan, I highly suggest you do.

  Here is the segment Carl did regarding Eratosthenes:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JHEqBLG650
  
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  It's My Turn

  by OneFingerSalute in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well i finally got the, "we would like to stop by with the circus oversneer and have an encouraging visit.

  would ---------day be good, at say -----------?".

  it'll probably be a pretty dull visit with the entire conversation being only one way.

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  Heaven

  Good to 'see' you Snakes! So glad your life is going great. :0)

  As for having JWs drop around, I would just tell them "My schedule is really busy. I'm not available."

  That's what I do with my boss. A couple of times now my work has called me at home on the weekends and have left me messages. I just keep telling them "I'm not home on the weekends. You're never going to get me."
  
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  JWs and their views on Sex

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the past i have read on this forum that the wt have a say in the "bedroom" of couples.

  i thought that was a bit overkill at first, but recently i have come to conclusion that this is true.. the control administered by the wt cooperation on ones sex life is not on only intrusive, its damaging.

  they control every aspect of ones thought and action, thus leading most down a path that said corporation wants them to tread.. this path is to get married young, and then eternal loyalty the the organisation.. so how can an organisation force you to get married young?.

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  Heaven

  This prayer before sex thing would be a 100% turn off for me.
  
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  Anthony Morris human hot dogs

  by Tornintwo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am in complete shock!

  bearing in mind i still class myself as 'doubting' and still have/had respect for some jw teachings, well i can't believe what i just listened to from a member of the governing body.

  im sure a lot of you have seen this but for anyone new like me, you have to see this.

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  Heaven

  I'm taking it you've also never been to a meeting where they talk oral sex in front of young, pre-teen children.