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  Historic Turning Point After Century in Brooklyn, Watchtower Pulls Out of Heights

  by Dogpatch in

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  downtown brooklyn its definite.

  rumors can be laid to rest.

  the watchtower bible & tract society is moving its headquarters out of brooklyn heights and up to warwick, n.y.. we have submitted a proposal to the town of warwick to build a complex there that were calling the world headquarters of jehovahs witnesses, richard devine told the eagle tuesday.

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  Watchtower Pulls Out

  The contraceptive method used by the GB in most areas of their lives....
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  Watchtower building now a college dorm

  by recovering in

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  i thought it was profoundly ironic , in view of the witnesses anti-education stance that one of their buildings is now a collegw dorm.. http://www.brooklyneagle.com/categories/category.php?category_id=5&id=33701.

  former watchtower building in brooklyn now occupied by college students.

  by linda collins ([email protected]), published online 02-22-2010. .

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  It would be sooo funny if, once all the buildings are sold off, all were utilised by such worldly businesses such as: Alcoholics Anonymous meeting place, tobacco company headquarters, Artillery weapons factory, United Nations branch office, Swinging couples centre, Paedophile hiding place .....

  Hang on a minute, isn’t that what the buildings are being used for now under the guise of the WBTS??

  I’m sure there are a few more I missed out on....

  Mattieu...
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 02-21-10 WT Study (SALVATION)

  by blondie in

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  http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com.

  http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php.

  http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/.

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  Thanks for your hard work & research Blondie, hope you feel much better sooner than later.

  Mattieu.
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  Divided household, spiritual widow, spiritual orphan. Propaganda expressions

  by Mattieu in

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  i grew up in what the society calls a divided household being a spiritual orphan the son of a spiritual widow.

  looking back now, these terms certainly isolated us, or marked us as being different from the ideal families in the congo.. there were quite a few of us divided households in our congo when we were growing up and as most of the spiritual united families wouldnt associate with us on a social scale, we mostly hung out with each other.

  a few of our dads became good friends as no doubt they had a few things in common, being the cause of divided households.. i remember one elders son saying they couldnt hang around us as his dad told him we were bad association, not that we were doing anything wrong, we pioneered on school holidays gave talks, answered up, did all the right things except we had a dad who wasnt in the truth.. these terms that the society use, also create an us versus them attitude within the family arrangement.

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  Hi Whitedove,

  Sadly your comments are true of most single Mum’s in the borg. The last congo I associated with had a fair representation of single Mum’s who had to struggle with raising a family, work or the stress of lack of work/income and all the other anxieties of life and the lack of association. Sadly most are viewed as a statistic to make the congo report card look good for the c/o.

  Mattieu.
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  Divided household, spiritual widow, spiritual orphan. Propaganda expressions

  by Mattieu in

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  i grew up in what the society calls a divided household being a spiritual orphan the son of a spiritual widow.

  looking back now, these terms certainly isolated us, or marked us as being different from the ideal families in the congo.. there were quite a few of us divided households in our congo when we were growing up and as most of the spiritual united families wouldnt associate with us on a social scale, we mostly hung out with each other.

  a few of our dads became good friends as no doubt they had a few things in common, being the cause of divided households.. i remember one elders son saying they couldnt hang around us as his dad told him we were bad association, not that we were doing anything wrong, we pioneered on school holidays gave talks, answered up, did all the right things except we had a dad who wasnt in the truth.. these terms that the society use, also create an us versus them attitude within the family arrangement.

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  I grew up in what the society calls a “divided household” being a “spiritual orphan” the son of a “spiritual widow”. Looking back now, these terms certainly isolated us, or marked us as being different from the ideal families in the congo.

  There were quite a few of us “divided households” in our congo when we were growing up and as most of the “spiritual united families” wouldn’t associate with us on a social scale, we mostly hung out with each other. A few of our dad’s became good friends as no doubt they had a few things in common, being the cause of divided households.

  I remember one elders son saying they couldn’t hang around us as his Dad told him we were bad association, not that we were doing anything wrong, we pioneered on school holidays gave talks, answered up, did all the right things except we had a Dad who wasn’t in the truth.

  These terms that the society use, also create an “us versus them” attitude within the family arrangement. Far from uniting families, when those terms are used at the meetings it really is saying “those in the truth = good, those not in= evil” that your Dad is a source of spiritual endangerment.

  Just as governments have wartime propaganda expressions, I felt the society used these expressions to their advantage. Far from the original scriptural application of “widows and orphans” it is used now as spiritual warfare propaganda in getting those in to be more loyal to the society instead of putting the family first. On a side note, the elders where we were definitely did not watch over these “spiritual widows or orphans” rather neglecting them big time.

  Well I hope my rant makes sense, perhaps my experience is not as others experienced, the above could have just been particular to the city we grew up here in Australia. But I would like to know how others felt and were treated growing up in “divided households”.

  Cheers, Mattieu...
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  Historic Turning Point After Century in Brooklyn, Watchtower Pulls Out of Heights

  by Dogpatch in

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  downtown brooklyn its definite.

  rumors can be laid to rest.

  the watchtower bible & tract society is moving its headquarters out of brooklyn heights and up to warwick, n.y.. we have submitted a proposal to the town of warwick to build a complex there that were calling the world headquarters of jehovahs witnesses, richard devine told the eagle tuesday.

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  Wouldn’t it be nice if they divided up the profit they make once all the Brooklyn properties are sold and shared it with all past/present bethel volunteers and all those that shared in the construction/renovation work over the years?

  More chance of the Big A happening this year than of the cash cows being generous...

  Mattieu.
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  ***Surgery was a success***

  by babygirl30 in

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  hey everyone!

  sorry it took me awhile to follow-up, but the pain was more then i bargained for!!!

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/188970/1/urgent-advice-needed.

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  Glad to hear babygirl, all the best for a fast recovery.

  Cheers, Matt.
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  Do you have a Jezebel photo?

  by feenx in

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  alright, so i am sharing some fun tidbits with my fiance about things i remember as a kid growing up.

  we were trying to remember the woman from the old testament who murdered a king (she went to a christian school so we both got hammered with the bible) and we couldn't.

  inevitably when you're talking about any women from the old testament jezebel comes up.

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  We had a sister in our hall who was the spitting image of the woman they used in that picture from the my book of bible stories. Needless to say what the nickname we had for her behind her back was. The funny thing was that she was a stuck up, snarling sister who never had anything nice to say, so whenever I looked at the picture I could imagine her voice screaming as she fell to the gound...

  Mattieu..
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  When you were a JW....

  by lavendar in

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  for those of you who started studying with the watchtower society as an adult (not born in)......did a friend or family member ever try to dissuade you from joining?

  if so, what did you think of that person at the time?.

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  Hi Lavender,

  I was a born in, though I can comment from my Mums experience when she got the truth as an adult in the late 60’s. All her family and my Dad and his family tried dissuading her. Though her bible study conductor convinced her that “all those trying to oppose you are really from Satan, as he does not want you to learn the truth.” And I’m sure she was quoted numerous scriptures to back up that statement. She sadly still hangs on to false reasoning like that and defends the society no matter what evidence to prove them wrong is put in front of her.

  Mattieu....
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  did the watchtower turn you dislexic?!!

  by xbro in

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  did any other english jw's struggle at school with their spellings?

  reading american english all the time in the mags and stuff realy got me spelling the american way and so my schooling suffered,sometimes whole words didnt exist in the queens english!.

  i guess you american xjw's wont quite understand!lol.

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  It reminds me of the time a mate & I walked into a bra.............

  Mattieu