GromitSK

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  Do you have an Angel camping around your house?

  by cantleave in

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  no i have an english bull terrier, he protects me..

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  GromitSK

  I am trying to visualise a camp angel. I keep getting an image of John Inman.
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  How Broke Are They?

  by metatron in

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  the october km announces that, starting this year, there will be no theocratic school schedules as an insert in the km.

  weekly tms parts will be printed as part of the monthly km.

  this follows the experiment of dumping a pile of magazines at the kingdom hall and catch-as-catch can.

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  GromitSK

  How I recall all that paperwork and bull with loathing lol
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  Does anyone think that maybe we're just wrong?

  by paul from cleveland in

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  i was disfellowshipped in 1995. even though i lost my friends and family, i felt like i had been finally set free and was happy for many years.

  while i was a jehovah's witness, i always felt so miserable.

  i never felt like i was doing enough to please jehovah.

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  GromitSK

  If Jesus has been ruling since his resurrection I have to say he isn't making much of a job of it.
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  Everything About Being An Elder is Weird (my misc rambling memories of being an elder)

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  for any brother who is a jehovah's witness, the goal is put before them to reach out for the privilege of being an elder.

  i can only speak for myself, but being born into the religion, i wanted to be an elder since i was 5. i would have much rather wanted to be a doctor or engineer, but those are the breaks..... i'll skip the part about what it takes to reach out, all the crap you have to put up with as a ministerial servant to get appointed, and go straight to the reality.. i know many elders who sincerely just wanted to be shepherds.

  i did want the spotlight.

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  GromitSK

  ATJ - I think your story was very interesting and that it is important that people have access to it. I don't think anyone who has been a JW can't recall when looking back a number of incidents which are buttock-clenchingly embarrassing either because they fell for the shinola in the first place or for their sheer crassness. If the Holy Spirit (assuming it exists at all) has any role to play in discipline in the congregation one would expect it to have made its presence felt a little more strongly especially when expelling people from the cong. It doesn't of course because the BoE have about as much exposure to it as a Ladies Sewing Circle or Hells Angel Reunion, probably less in fact.
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  Does anyone think that maybe we're just wrong?

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was disfellowshipped in 1995. even though i lost my friends and family, i felt like i had been finally set free and was happy for many years.

  while i was a jehovah's witness, i always felt so miserable.

  i never felt like i was doing enough to please jehovah.

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  GromitSK

  It seems to me that this is about making a decision. To make a decision wisely one needs sufficient information. JW's along with all cults effectively cut off one's access to information other than that supplied by the cult. As a consequence it is difficult sometimes to even find the type of balancing information needed to make a rational decision, on top of the fact the cult will make you feel guilty for even considering looking for it, let alone reading it. It amounts to control by fear. It is unpleasant, frightening and effective and relies on you trusting the source of the information that is fed to you.

  When I was booted out of the Org in the mid-80s there was no easy access to information opposing the witnesses or access to people who had left the organisation to whom I could turn. There are many sources of information and support available these days - this place being one such. What kept me sane (assuming I was) at the time was identifying one piece of information or fact that I could prove didn't make sense and was wrong. What it was, was personal to me and wouldn't perhaps mean anything to you but it opened up reasonable doubt. This was all I had for many years as the only people I met either had their own religious message to push (as on here from some) or didn't have any religious conviction and couldn't understand my dilemma. To give myself permission to research the witnesses and read more widely all I needed was one thing that showed they could be wrong. It wasn't difficult then to do more research although the advent of the internet made it much much easier.

  On this forum you will read about experiences from people who have been at the very heart of the organisation and had access that most publishers could never even dream of. These experiences have the ring of truth to me. I would also recommend Crisis if Conscience if you haven't already. Surely researching to find the truth with an honest motive cannot be a bad thing? If it is, then one would have to ask why this is so.

  I would also recommend finding one or two people who give you a balanced answer and opinion. Then you can run your concerns past these people and check your logic.
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  An Elder wrote anomously...

  by Butterflyleia85 in

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  i realize as an elder that i am speaking out against the very organization i try to faithfully represent, but i personally think that the governing body is wrong by teaching that only what they teach us, as printed in the watchtower publications, should be considered to be the truth.

  theyve made the expression of any personal opinions or group debates over their official versions of biblical truths subject to disciplinary action often leading to someone being disfellowshipped.. .

  that is why i feel that i must keep my own identity somewhat anonymous.

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  That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. :)
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  An Elder wrote anomously...

  by Butterflyleia85 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i realize as an elder that i am speaking out against the very organization i try to faithfully represent, but i personally think that the governing body is wrong by teaching that only what they teach us, as printed in the watchtower publications, should be considered to be the truth.

  theyve made the expression of any personal opinions or group debates over their official versions of biblical truths subject to disciplinary action often leading to someone being disfellowshipped.. .

  that is why i feel that i must keep my own identity somewhat anonymous.

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  GromitSK

  I think the "truth" needs a bit more than fine-tuning LMAO
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  Convention 2009 - My best friend gets "love bombed" back in the "truth" and his sad SMS!!!!

  by Witness 007 in

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  i was so happy when my best friend {a witness} since childhood tells me he has doubts about the org.

  and how brothers are "two faced" and the "false prophecies", and how he "needs a woman soon or he'll visit a brothel".... he had not gone to meetings for months and his mum blamed me although he didn't need much convincing.

  well we went to the convention to please family and he enjoyed the lavish attention he got from so many "loving" brothers.

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  GromitSK

  I dont think the faithful son was actually condemned in that fairytale other than for sulking lol
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  November 15 2009 Watchtower (Study Edition) - Treasure Your Place in the Congregation...

  by CrazyBlonde in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thought this one was quite creepy - the article to be studied january 11-17 "treasure your place in the congregation", page 13 para 5 reads (italics mine):.

  "the spirit that now operates in the sons of disobedience" is so widespread that it is like the air we breathe.

  (eph.

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  GromitSK

  Assuming of course Moses and Korah even existed I am not sure I would regard their guidance by God as undoubted. At least the Borg actually exist (regretably).
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  has your life been "blessed" since leaving?

  by tigeress in

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  2. friends

  while in the org we are constantly told that if we just tow the line and behave that will we be blessed and everything we want will come to us.

  personaly i havn't found that to be the case in the 30 years i spent trying to tow the line.. but now i've left wonderfull things are starting to happen in my life and i'm so very happy!.

  so i wondered, have you encountered more "blessings" or less since leaving?.

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  GromitSK

  No my life has been normal since leaving thankfully.