what little is this world
I have heard about him / in the ninties I was in Israel for work and there a nice "american" (Jw)family studied with me
I subtly asked about persons who left the org. and they told to me about "Mr. Coffee"
does anybody remember the old apostate guy they called mr. coffee?
back in the late 80s when i was at brooklyn he would dress in a suit, have a book bag, and come and stand in front of the 124 bldg or sometimes over by the towers hotel.
he'd easily put in auxillary pioneer hours.
what little is this world
I have heard about him / in the ninties I was in Israel for work and there a nice "american" (Jw)family studied with me
I subtly asked about persons who left the org. and they told to me about "Mr. Coffee"
i attended the school late last year, and it was an emotional and mental rollercoaster for me.
i was already divided in my heart to say the least.
one of the instructors stayed in my home for the week, and my family genuinely enjoyed his company.
Their method of "organize" the activity at three levels - congregations, branches and headquarters make it possible to find the "mark" of it - of the beast, I mean.
wantingtruth
i received this strange e-mail from romania.
to worship god in spirit , it means to have the understanding of his word , in spirit .
what is the truth ?
interesting this letter....
the gospel according to john is my favourite book of the bible.
i've just picked up where i left off reading it at chapter 16. i havnt looked at the bible since being disfellowshipped and i read the first 3 verses:.
1 i have told you these things so that you wont abandon your faith.2for you will be expelled from the synagogues, and the time is coming when those who kill you will think they are doing a holy service for god.3this is because they have never known the father or me.. jesus encouraged his disciples not to lose their faith, it seems when they would be thrown out of the religion they belonged to.
Timothy,
I am so glad that you love the Bible , and read it !
I also read the Bible and here is what I have found :
greetings to you
wantingtruth
if god is almighty, would he not have preserve the true church that jesus and the apostles build today?
instead of letting satan and apostates infiltrated the true church,so that its true teaching and the true church perished or was rejected by both jehovah and christ because of apostacy!if the true church survived and is with us today, where do the jehovah s witness organisation stand?.
If the true church survived and is with us today, where do the jehovah s witness organisation stand?
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to arrive at its date of 607 bce for jerusalems destruction, the wts uses what it calls bible chronology.. this bible chronology says that since the seventy year period ended in 537 bce, when 70 years are counted back this provides the 607 bce date for jerusalems destruction.. the wts says its bible chronology method is superior to the secular uninspired chronology provided by secular sources.. does the wtss bible chronology align with the bibles teachings on the seventy years?
is its method the valid way to determine when jerusalem was destroyed?.
these matters are discussed in my study, which is available at:.
Too much time spent studying chronology would make/transform the Christian into an historian....
and God does not require that / He helps us through His Spirit to discern from Bible what is useful for us
God points toward the "chronology of the latter days" wich is good to be understood
and
wantingtruth
the october 1, 2011 watchtower article when was ancient jerusalem destroyed?
includes the following statement.. .
there is also strong evidence from cuneiform documents that prior to the reign of nabopolassar (the first king of the neo-babylonian period), another king (ashuretel-ilani) ruled for four years in babylonia.
Something the "Watchtower" left out :
it is the "teaching of Christ" they have left out !
9 Whosoever goeth onward and abideth not in the teaching of Christ, hath not God: he that abideth in the teaching, the same hath both the Father and the Son.
a persistent meme that floats around on jw related internet forums holds that christ's second coming was moved forward 40 years (i.e.
from 1874 to 1914) in the year 1943.
(this appears to be based primarily on a statment in the book god's kingdom of a thousand years has approached on page 209 and to a lesser degree, a footnote at the bottom of page 133 of the publication jehovah's witnesses - proclaimers of god's kingdom.).
djeggnog , I don't know who you are, but I recommend to you this study:
wantingtruth
i spoke with my mother, told her everything, my doubts, my fears, my sins.
it came rushing out.
my mother is devastated.
Hello KN !
"The truth shall make you free" / it implies a little knowledge from Bible ! The Knowledge as Jesus is giving to those asking !
I believe in Father and His Son , and after I became "free" from organizations, this is what I have been helped to understand:
The Kingdom of God – when in Heaven ? — according to “Jesus’ teaching”
Are JWs Exclusively God’s People?
The "latter days" chronology revealed
I hope the knowledge of the truth shall make you free...in Christ !
wantingtruth.
on internet forums such as these, it is to be expected that there will be people who want to save jw's.
esp from (thinking for) themselves.. however, the real dillema's facing an ex jw who leaves, whether on their own terms or being disfellowshipped are real and haven't changed.. .
lonliness, how to make friends, is a big issue.. fear, esp fear based on superstition, a fear of god and of the future that is not in any way based in proveable fact.. education, how to think and reason critically to avoid being taken advantage of is a big challenge.. love, sex, and how to navigate your way around all of that hot mess.. geez, yeah, forgot.
The real issue facing former Jehovah's Witnesses is who they are.
That's very true !
the situations we are experiencing these times reveals what we have deep in our hearts / who we really are / the hidden things of our hearth.....
...according to what is written Mark 4
22. For there is nothing hid, save that it should be manifested; neither was anything made secret, but that it should come to light.
and this action of "revealing of all hidden things" means "judgment"
Ecclesiastes 12
13. This is the end of the matter; all hath been heard: fear God, and keep his commandments; for this is the whole duty of man.
14. For God will bring every work into judgment, with every hidden thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.