the nt references the 'word of god' in a number of places.
(for example: hebrews 4:12-the word of god is alive and exerts power and is sharper than a two-edged sword).
it can't be referring to the ot and the mosaic law because those authors writing after jesus's death were trying to put away the old law traditions, and it can't be referring to any of the nt books because many were not even written yet or known to be scripture per se.
the "word of God"
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Jesus included also the teachings (words) He was preaching
6. Jesus therefore answered them and said, My teaching is not mine, but his that sent me.
wantingtruth
invisible presence!
or coming?
the governing body of the watchtower society, makes claim to being the anointed brothers of the christ.
james 5:7 (holman christian standard bible).
james 5:8 (holman christian standard bible).
2 peter 1:16 (holman christian standard bible).
It seems what you discover fills you with joy
That's right ?
wantingtruth
showing my poetic side...hope you enjoy.
forgive them father, for they dont know what they do.
when they use your holy name to lead us astray.... forgive them father, for they dont know what they do.
because "mercy" is used,
the repented "deceived" ones will surely be forgiven
but the aknowledged "deceivers" and "deceived"ones - no proof for that !
Let God/ The Judge have mercy !
wt
does god need an organization on earth today?.
the word of the lord from jerusalem.
because he is jehovah's organization on earth today, right now!
Wannabe,
good post !
in fact, God has no "earthly organisation" ...... , only a "heavenly Kingdom" which will be extended over earth
. His purpose is to have a "people" of cleaned/sanctified individuals as written
14 " who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good."
only to a such kind of "people" God will give the Kingdom as written in Daniel 7 v27.
so , God has NOT earthly organisation , and don't need it , BUT His purpose is to "start" His (heavenly) Kingdom on earth with in a "people" composed by "purified individuals" of whose Head is Christ !
Those understanding these things are just now cleaning themselves through the "water" of truth , by faith !
TJLibre , good quotes !
wt.
i've read so many different discussions about 587 b.c.[e.
i often wondered if those issues were debatable; either way, i found the discussions of the historical data to be far too technical for the average person to absorb.
if i may be so bold, i consider myself as slightly above average, in my more arrogant moments.
See also this way...
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i composed the file at.
http://www.jwstudies.com/christ_is_coming_very_soon.pdf.
in response to a jehovahs witnesss comment that people had looked forward to 1914.. .
Indeed , Russell has "borrowed" the chronology from others... who lived before him
Here would be important to say that the Bible chronologies were NOT discovered by God to Russell or others of his mates or followers
the chronology was not dscovered untill about 8 years ago , but is not believed yet .
There is an important thing to be observed : all given "datas" belong to "end-times prophecies" (Daniel and Revelation) , so, they are a part of "end-time"... and these datas CANNOT be used with the purpose to find WHEN the end-time starts or begins
the real data of the begining of the latter days and end-time is to be found with OTHER MEANS , and surely WITHOUT Daniel's chronologies...
wantingtruth
with the new burj khalifa standing 828m tall god must be pooping his pants worried about what else man may achieve.
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that old tower of babel must have been really really really tall to have caused him to panic somewhat.. the burj khalifa is nearly twice as tall as the empire state building.. what the hell must he be thinking now.
In fact God is accomplishing his word according to the "spiritual" interpretation of his word
the Tower is already under His action of "scattering" it
its about ... Watch ... Tower
the team over W..Tower acted hard in the last several decades to "bring people of ALL nations" under their control
by imposing an "unity" under their own control
Now, God is shakening this Tower , and shortly it will be made into pieces
all its ex members will be confused ... regarding the "truth language" imposed by the Babel Tower leadership ...
and they are already....
action ongoing...
wantingtruth
putting on a three piece suit to spend a 90 degree summer day knocking on doors and trespassing!dragging an entire family, including babies and young children to three or four day meetings in an outdoor stadium, living in a seedy motel room for the week.getting home from work and spending the next six hours cramming for a 'theocratic review', getting the entire family ready to go, gulping down dinner, and speeding off to the hall, and then finally getting home around 11 pm, hurrying off to bed so that everyone could get up for work and school in the morning!going to school to explain to the teachers why little johnny can't color pictures of santa, salute the flag of his country, eat birthday cake with all the other 5 year olds, bow his head when prayer is offered, or exchange valentines with all the cute 5 year old girls in class.
and then explaining with grace why he is not immersed in a cult!well, on and on!
these things were typical of my witness life - now i cannot imagine ever doing such silly things, and especially thinking that somehow they would bring pleasure to my god!.
quote
"You have no idea and need to understand that for some of us, the GREAT TRIBULATION has already occured."
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here you have stated a truth !
this is, in fact, the GT where the great multitude (Rev 7:14-17) is coming out - the oppression done by the MOL to those seeking the Kingdom of God .
wantingtruth
i knew some jws that lived for examining so -called bible prophecy per watchtower interpretation.
everytime they thought a "new point" was being brought out in a watchtower, they would begin their speculations and discuss their views with like minded theorists.. personally, i never got into bible prophecy, especially after realizing how the watchtower has changed their opinions over the years.. did you really get into prophecy or were you more into other aspects of jwism?.
