a taunton mass.
2nd grader was sent home from school after the class was asked to draw something relating to the holidays.
he had been with his dad a couple of weeks before to a church function and saw these types of crosses on display.
What if the kid were a JW and put JC on a stake, tied with rope? The poor teacher would have really been confused.
Hopefully the kid would have his WT book (can't recall which--The Great Teacher?) and show JC with the two thiefs all bound on the stakes together. Remember that?
we believed we'd see our dear loved ones back on paradise earth.
now, we don't accept this.
so what hope do you have?
Why do so many people want to see dead relatives? I'm curious.
Seriously. Why is seeing someone who was old, ill, etc., so all consuming to JWs and, apparently, Ex-JWs?
As I noted in my response, I honestly don't want to see *any* of my dead relatives. None. Zip. Zilch. Nada. I have accepted that they are D-E-A-D and aren't coming back. I am not going to heaven and I am not ever going to see them again. For that, I am happy.
So, why is this such an all consuming issue with this Cult? Why is thinking that you'll hug Grumpy, Smelly Grampy so appealing?
Please explain. Someone. Anyone. Or, I'll start a new thread.
sung to "rudolph, the red-nosed reindeer.".
rudolph, the red-faced elder.
had a very active nose.. he used to sniff out trouble,.
can be streamed from here:.
http://www.videoweed.com/file/rv5fh4cfbce75.
or downloaded here:.
Better get your cars running on vegetable oil; used of course.
A good friend works in used vegetable oil and business has never been better. Heck with the Prius. Go Crisco.
we believed we'd see our dear loved ones back on paradise earth.
now, we don't accept this.
so what hope do you have?
I have not read anyone's response. So, here is what *I* thought:
As a JW kid I had some mean-ass relatives. Seriously. They were not the nicest people. I always (as a brain-dead JW) thought living forever would be fun, as long as I was perfect and looked like one of the gals on TV or in a magazine. You know--smokin'. Otherwise, what was the point?
On to the Resurrection and my mean-ass relatives. None of them were worthy of being resurrected in my opinion. And I was a kid. I was less than 18 years old and I realized that if *I* were God Jehovah, I would pass on them. They were pieces of shit.
So, why would I want them resurrected? Why would I want to live forever with a bunch of mean SOBs? Forever is a long time and spending forever with people you saw on weekends and on holidays seemed like forever in hell.
That started my downward spiral to being an Apostate. Seriously. I never thought any of them, or many in the KH we attended deserved to be resurrected.
So, when I left and faded, I didn't worry about that. I was never *Comforted* by it and when I hear my mother and aunts talk about it now, honestly, I want to throw up and tell them that So and So was a POS and God wouldn't resurrect them if he had a gun to his head.
Just my opinion.
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2009/11/michael-moore-exchanges-letters-with-obama.html.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/11/30/809109/-an-open-letter-to-president-obama-from-michael-moore.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/11/30/809130/-an-open-letter-to-michael-moore-from-president-obama.
Huh.
Cat fight.
what connection do you make?.
Uptight
Hypocritical
Liars
Braindead
Idiots
Cheap
Self-Righteous
Boring
I could go on and on. I was in touch with all my family this weekend. Hence my list.
there are many generations of xjws here.
i'm curious as to what happened to you in school.. were you sent to the library during festivities, allowed to stay home, or allowed to participate?
enter the years if you can and the number of jw's with you.. mine: mid 1960's to mid 70's.
My sister and I were the only JW kids in a very Catholic neighborhood in Chicago. We went to a public school and during morning class when the pledge was done, I was made to go into the coatroom by one teacher (first grade) and made to stand in the hall by another (second grade). Third grade is a blur.
By those same teachers, the first grade teacher was the worst. She was a much older lady who, seemingly, despised me for being a JW kid. I was very quiet and only brought notes from my Mom. Mom never, ever showed up to tell the Principal or teachers of what we were to not do. Only notes, which is why they maybe didn't like us.
During holidays and birthdays, I got put in the coatroom or again, the hallway. Just sit there. The coatroom was an area that was about 3 foot deep and had hooks on the wall for coats. Pull down black boards covered the area. At least I could take a nap while everyone else sang and ate cookies and cake.
Overall, I hated school. Until 4th grade. The teachers assistant was really nice to me.
This was during the late 60's and early 70's.
i don't know about anyone else, but even when i was 14 or 15 i had an issue with the fact that women are weaker vessels than men and we are to be submissive to our "head" of the house etc.... people just assumed i was a moody teenager trying to be cool by disagreeing with those scriptures but i was a feminist in the making.. i even asked an elder's wife about it and i said to her: "you're a headstrong woman, how do you feel about this?
do you think you should succumb to paul's every word and do as he says all the time??".
she replied: "i hate that scripture too sarah.
WTWizard--
how many of you would walk away from your mortgage?
do you think it's a smart move or unethical?
sammieswife.. american dream 2: default, then rent.
Here is a very good article from Realty Trac (trade publication) on the hows and whys of why people are walking away. Below is a small snippet:
The idea of walking away from a mortgage remains far beyond the norms of either socially-acceptable or financially-responsible behavior. No less important, the act of walking away has substantial consequences.
For most borrowers the threat of a monetary judgment cannot be ignored. Under federal rules, judgments can remain on credit reports for seven years or “or until the governing statute of limitations has expired, whichever is the longer period.”
In many states, judgments remain in force for 10 years — a period which can be extended for an additional 10 years if the judgment is renewed.
Not only do judgments remain on credit records for many years, lenders routinely require that judgments must be repaid before new credit will be granted for larger loans, such as those used for cars and homes.
The result is that those who walk away from mortgages may be pauperized for decades because they will be unable to get credit at reasonable cost — if they can get credit at all.
“In the same way that we expect lenders to meet baseline standards of conduct, we must also have the same expectations with borrowers,” says James J
. Saccacio, chief executive officer of RealtyTrac.com, the online foreclosure site that receives more than three million visitors each month. “The idea that
walking away from a mortgage is somehow acceptable should be seen for what it is: A destructive notion that will result in sharply-higher mortgage rates for all
borrowers, something any thinking person should vehemently oppose.”
http://www.realtytrac.com/contentmanagement/realtytraclibrary.aspx?channelid=8&itemid=4271
Personally, I think people who purchased homes that are now underwater created the problem. Yes, they can rent for less. What is your credit worth? What is the judgement worth? You still have to work out all the details with the bank and there are legalities that need to be worked out. Everyone loses.
