Posts by Hmmm

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Taking Halle's Award?????????

by Tatiana in

i just heard that the academy mis-counted the votes and are going to take halle's oscar and give it to sissy spaceck(sp?)........

this sucks!.

april.

Is he sinning?

by Yvonne in

i have a kind of platonic relationship with an elder jw.

he is the most loving, caring and wise person i know.

we have never, ever have talked about this love or anything else improper.

I agree with the others about running the other way for reasons that have nothing to do with JWs. But to answer your question, yes this COULD cause problems for him. Some elders seem to get away with murder, but just meeting you for coffee could theoretically cost him his position. Do both of you a favor and move on.

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My Dad sent me this; anyone got a sick-bag?

by Abaddon in

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friends

junk dubbie mail from my dear dad (who i have quite a good relationship with, as i can ignore stuff like this);.

subject: satan's convention----theme: "keep them busy".

satan called a worldwide convention.

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This reads like something that was lifted from a fundamentalist Baptist email and changed for JWs.

My favorite part: "Entice them to play the radio or cassette player whenever they drive"

Then theres "see to it that every store and restaurant in the world plays non-Biblical music constantly." Has anybody heard the "remix" of the biblical song the Israelites played when they slaughtered the inhabitants of Jericho for not giving away their land? I gotta get that on wax!

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memorial ettiquette for worldy people??????

by concerned mama in

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friends

i have been away for a few days, so forgive me if this has already been covered.. am i (a non jw) supposed to refer to the memorial in any way talking to a jw?

for example, would i say "happy memorial", or could i ask if they had a nice celebration?

since it is the one and only big day each year is there some way to acknowledge it in a friendly type conversational way?

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The Memorial is a happy time. Wishing "Happy Memorial!" just after the prayers over the bread and wine is akin to yelling "Happy New Year!" when the clock hits 12:00:00. If you can find someone to kiss, that's a bonus.

When the "emblems" get to you, you'll notice that nobody has touched them. They're saving them for you because you're new. The guest is expected to sock away a few crackers in their purse for the Memorial after-party, also. If you can bring a sealable Tupperware container for the wine, great.

When the others finish offering the snacks, they race up front and play a game of musical chairs. They all scurry around, up on stage, down in the front row, sitting, standing. The guy who gives the talk is humming a tune in his head. When you see the first dude start to sit, hurry and grab a seat! If the guest of honor wins musical chairs he gets a special prize (don't know what it is; I never won).

By the way, which congregation will you be attending. This I gotta see!

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this website

by little_lamb_on_a_hill in

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friends

i just stumbled onto this website whilst messing about on the internet and i've taken exception to quite a lot of what i've seen here.

incase you think i'm some irate jehovah's witness idiot who's been offended by the terrible blasphemy that he's read on here, i'm not.

i was raised a jw, but now i'm not one.. first of all, given the url, i thought this website was in some way affiliated with the jehovah's witness organization, whereas in reality it seems from the posts i've read that most people here are either former jehovah's witnesses or soon-to-be former jehovah's witnesses.

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I just stumbled onto this website whilst messing about on the internet and I've taken exception to quite a lot of what I've seen here.

Now there's a first, someone took exception to what they read on the Internet. Better call UUNET and have them shut it all down. (Just kidding, welcome.)

Incase you think I'm some irate Jehovah's Witness idiot who's been offended by the terrible blasphemy that he's read on here, I'm not. I was raised a JW, but now I'm not one.

Were you ever baptized? At what age did you leave?

First of all, given the url, I thought this website was in some way affiliated with the Jehovah's Witness organization, whereas in reality it seems from the posts I've read that most people here are either former Jehovah's Witnesses or soon-to-be former Jehovah's Witnesses. Is this ambiguity deliberate? I think you should make it clearer you're not affiliated, unless it's some deliberate ploy to snare Jehovah's Witnesses, which brings me onto my next point.

I can see how you might have made that assumption, but as you said, it takes very little time to clear it up. If you go to quilting.com, how do you know if it's a site affiliated with the National Quilting Society of Botswana, or just a site ABOUT quilting.

Who cares? If it offers good information, read up. If not, move on.

Why are you all so bothered, well, maybe not all of you, about getting JWs to leave? Why should it matter to you in the slightest?

I don't think there are that many who have a mission to destroy the Watchtower. The vast majority come here to talk to people who share a common background. Many need help dealing with the damage resulting from being in a cult/high control group. As has been pointed out, many have family members in the religion who won't speak to us, or wouldn't if they knew how we feel, and are looking for understanding and maybe some help reasoning with our loved ones.

It's worse than them going around preaching, seriously, you were Jehovah's Witnesses once, now you're not, you've learnt from your mistake, now get on with your life.

Easy for you to say. Many people need help "getting on with their lives" when none of the friends they grew up with will speak to them. When their children have never seen their grandparents because they're being shunned by their entire family. When they wake up every day to the pain of remembering the death of someone they loved who wouldn't accept a blood transfusion because a group of men who claim to Speak For God told them not to. When they live with the pain of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse by members of the group who remain in good standing--and are even PROTECTED by the group--because maintaining the illusion of a chaste, God-fearing group was more important than protecting little children.

Finally, given that, from what I can gather, most of you are now former JWs, why do you make such a big deal about people within the Jehovah's Witness organization being fallible, some trifling bit of alleged corruption within the organization itself or them have a poor policy for dealing with thus and so forth? First of all, everybody's fallible, JW or not, so the fact that when you were a Jehovah's Witness a few people were nasty to you doesn't really mean a lot, it certainly doesn't mean that Jehovah's Witnesses are all hypocrites, just the people who were nasty to you.

The answer to these questions could get pretty long and complicated. It deals with the organizational hypocrisy of claiming to speak for God and allowing NO disagreement, then falling back on human imperfection when your guesses cost people their lives.

Secondly, given that the actions of the "faithful and discreet slave” are not really being directed by God, it means nothing if they deal with a few things badly, other than that they are human and make mistakes.

Where did you get that? Not really directed by God? But they claim that they ARE directed by God. When you claim to be the ONLY way the creator of all life in the universe has chosen to communicate with humans, and you "deal with a few things badly" you cost people their lives. Some teen-aged kid who refuses blood because it's all he's ever been taught (and he's never had the chance to look in to the matter on his own) dies, and you think it means nothing? Millions of people eek out a subsistence living or put off needed medical care because they believe any day now God is going to sweep down and take care of all their problems, and you think that's nothing?

What I really want to know is why? Why are you so obsessed by them? Why couldn't you just either leave the religion or stay? Why must you now spend your lives "exposing the hypocrisy of the WBTS"?

What I really want to know is why? Why are they so obsessed with us? Why can't we just either leave the religion or stay? Why do they force everyone we know to treat us like we're invisible, already dead? Why can't we say we disagree with some minor teaching or interpretation and be allowed to stay--maybe discuss it?

Welcome and stick around. You might learn the answers to some of your questions.

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Are you happy?

by teejay in

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friends

in the context of this forum, happiness at its core is generally defined in one of two ways: a) being a witness or, b) not being a witness.

most of us consider ourselves happier since leaving the organization.

because of a recent discussion between violetanai and marilyn, i've thought about it some more, only to reaffirm the truth i already discovered some time ago.

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Good thread, all. Unfortunately I have nothing of value to add, that hasn't already been said, so I'll just welcome yumbby to the board, and ask her this question:

Shantelle, can I have the $700 per month that you'll be saving on rent? If you could also throw in the money you'll save on phone and electricity, that would be great!

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Yet Another SEX QUIZ !!!!

by Prisca in

just for fun!.

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http://www.thesite.org/magazine/sex_and_relationships/animalquiz.html.

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I don't even need to take the test. I'm a bear... long periods of hybernation.

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Oscar Nominations for JWDB

by patio34 in

hi, i know we've had "who's-your-favorite-poster" threads, but in lite of the recent academy awards, i thought we'd try our own here.

here are some of the categories.

name one nominee for each category, plus any new categories you come up with.. 1. best thought provoker.

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For best thought-provoker, Folksy threads, and all around posters I nominate some of those english dudes. I can't really keep them straight--accents and all--so just mix their names up and spread the awards around. (OzziePost counts as English because he's obsessed with English football.)

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Ex-Witness Struck By Community Outpouring BY DAVEM

by MadApostate in

i'm don't know why dave hasn't posted this article?

maybe he is too humble, or maybe he was just hoping one of us would find it, or maybe its being circulated off-the-db?.

in any case, here it is, with my "thanks":.

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He did post this article. He just didn't tell us he was a future Pulitzer-winning world-famous publishing tycoon.

Good catch Mad, and congrats Dave.

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I am going to be just fine :)

by WildHorses in

i don't know if any of you really want to hear this, so if not please stop reading here.. i told a few of you about a guy i have been seeing for the past few months.

well, i found out that he has been seeing other women, and i spoke to him last night and tried to break it off with him.

he didnt want to hear it.

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I think the letter is a little too nice. I'd be a little more forceful. If this guy was seeing other women (and if that means sleeping with other women and you) then he's a pig who will see your letter as a challenge. He'll probably do exactly what you want him to do just long enough for you to forgive him... then it'll be business as usual.

I'd definitely take out the "friends" part. That translates as "please stalk me."

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