Posts by witnessgirl

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* Your thoughts on Apostate Literature *

by FlyingHighNow in

when they'd warn us at every circuit assembly not to read apostate literature, remember how they'd tell us if we received it in the mail, to throw it away immediately?

what thoughts went through your mind?.

mine were: "i don't think i can throw it away.

witnessgirl

I read this book while I was still in the Org. I bought it at a yard sale, so it was doubtless crawling with demons. As I recall, it just covered really old stuff like Miracle Wheat and the jellyfish story that I'd already read about in Watchtower literature (Divine Purpose and the Marley Cole book). If anything, it strengthened my convictions that the Org was right and that apostate literature is all BS.

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There's a crack in everything...

by Confession in

it's unavoidable... when a jw finds out you no longer believe it's "the truth," they're eager to jump on flaws in your thinking.

they (and formerly, we) want to believe that, when someone leaves, there must have been something that "soured you" to the organization.

some personal thing that resulted in bitterness and therefore your departure.. it's good to be able to say that you didn't leave because of any big scandal or personal affront, isn't it?

witnessgirl

Props for quoting Leonard Cohen. One of my favorite singers and writers of all time. Check out his first three albums, if you haven't. "Songs of Love and Hate" helped me an enormous amount while I was leaving the Org.

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Statistical evidence against WTS fulfillment of Mat24:14. Simple argument.

by Awakened at Gilead in

jehovahs witnesses are proud to point out that they are fulfilling the prophecy at matthew 24:14. jws are quick to point out that part of the purpose of the preaching work is so that jehovah can take note of how people respond to the witnessing, and thus can decide if they are worthy of survival or not.

last year, jws spent 1.4 billion hours in their preaching work.

so if we take: 6.6 billion people.

witnessgirl

Last year, JWs spent 1.4 billion hours in their preaching work. ... The average number of Bible studies is 6.5 million worldwide.

If we guess twenty hours a week for every publisher (way more than most get in), that's still only one Bible study every three years. Ouch. I thought I was the only one who could never get anyone to answer the door. Assumed I was cursed or demon possessed or something.

On the subject of time, am I the only one who found this graphic really disturbing? I showed it to a girl who's never been a Witness and briefly explained the concept of turning in your time, and she also said it was disturbing.

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Tommorow I'm throwing away my theocrapic library...I'm leaving my wife.

by Witness 007 in

yes i need to move on so the yearbooks the bibles the bound volumes are going in the trash.

this is not an add so don't ask me to send something to you.

i'm too tired and stressed out.

witnessgirl

Sometimes the most purgative route is also the healthiest. As someone who collects antique WT literature, I cringe every time I see someone say something like this, but at the same time, I can totally understand where you're coming from and appreciate that it's something that you need to do. Good luck. I hope that it helps.

This afternoon I've been engaged in hollowing out a copy of "Babylon the Great Has Fallen! God's Kingdom Rules!" I will use it to stash drugs in when I'm done. Then it will finally contain material of a spiritually beneficial nature. Wanted to toss it out there as another possible (destructive) use of WT literature.

Again, good luck to you! Try really hard not to look back.

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* Your thoughts on Apostate Literature *

by FlyingHighNow in

when they'd warn us at every circuit assembly not to read apostate literature, remember how they'd tell us if we received it in the mail, to throw it away immediately?

what thoughts went through your mind?.

mine were: "i don't think i can throw it away.

witnessgirl

FWIW, a few years back, before I DA'd, I bought some bound volumes on eBay that came with photocopies of information about chronology and 607 stuck inside the cover of one. But by that point I was already on my way out and just thought it was kind of neat. I possibly still have those copies somewhere.

Another time I bought a copy of Divine Purpose on eBay. It came with post-it notes in it with little notes written on them pointing out inconsistencies and referring to the later Proclaimers book (which was sort of a revision of Divine Purpose). I never decided whether the previous owner had just been doing study with them or if they had deliberately inserted them in case the buyer (me) was an active JW.

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Less Focus on Doctrine, More Focus on OBEDIENCE.

by easyreader1970 in

i went to the convention this past weekend.

it was a bit different than most conventions i have gone to (all 26 of them).

there was pretty much no doctrine presented at this convention at all.

witnessgirl

I'm wondering whether the new members of the GB (all born post-1935 if I'm not mistaken and, therefore, according to the 1996 WT volume I was reading last night, almost certainly not anointed--oh wait but there was New Light™ again wasn't there) feel compelled to try to maintain the status quo as much as possible to avoid the appearance of being reformers. The problem is, stagnating while already in a downward spiral isn't likely to make things better.

The new members of the GB have been granted captaincy of a sinking ship. Maintaining the course is hardly an option unless they really want to grind the Org into the ground. Problem is, by all appearances, that's exactly what they plan to do. I'm guessing that it's because they're afraid to do otherwise, as any reform at this point might bring their very anointment into question.

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This is about the famous dubs...........

by Vachi 8 He Is in

prince is a dub, do you think he's making progress in the troof?

does he go out in the field and preach to others about this fine fauxtower babble and crap society?

if not, isn't he in the running to become dissed, or do the rules not apply because he is the purple one?

witnessgirl

They can't possibly consider him an active publisher, can they? If they do, how do they justify it with the years of Watchtower articles about athletes and ballet dancers and musicians and what not who gave up their careers so that they could get baptized?

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Doomsday programming on History Channel International

by insearchoftruth in

starting at 8:00 pm est in the united states history channel international will be showing the following three programs back to back:.

the doomsday clock.

mayan doomsday prophecy.

witnessgirl

The Doomsday Clock show was pretty good, as I recall. I think they've featured that clock on the cover of Awake! at least once, FWIW. I had some trouble figuring out the old Awake! articles about nuclear war. They would spend long articles discussing the subject and then tack on at the end that they knew Jehovah wasn't going to end things via that route.

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Holy Moses! PBS documentary suggests Exodus not real

by ICBehindtheCurtain in

this will be very interesting, i only wish it would make the rounds on the jw emails the same way "knocking" did, fat chance!

we can only hope that pbs and nova will jump on this bandwagon as well, sooner than later.

holy moses!

witnessgirl

I tend to believe that Jews were in bondage to the Egyptians and I tend to believe that Jews later lived in Palestine. I am not an atheist or an agnostic or anything remotely like that. But Cyrus is 100% correct; there is absolutely no archaeological evidence for the Exodus, and there really should be given the sheer numbers involved and huge amounts of other archaeological remains in the area.

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Best JW tall story/variations of it?

by KW13 in

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dont just list one, list them all so we can laugh because in all honesty i can't believe we believed some of them.

for example, i was told annie lennox stopped a concert to ask if there was any jw's in the audience, and if there was could they leave as they were stopping the demons getting through...is this even remotely true?

did annie lennox ask the jw's in the audience to move because they were stopping the snack lady getting through...and it got twisted through chinese whispers.... the other day (i felt sick) one witness was banging on about how amazing it was that the watchtower society's building was the only one standing still...wtf...my stepdad responded with a 'wow thats amazing' and the first brother was like 'yeah i know'...grrrrrrrrr aaaaaaaah screaaaaaaaaam .

witnessgirl

Two missionary brothers in the Australian outback hit a kangaroo in their 4x4, and stopped, nursed it back to health and put a WT in the kangaroos pouch. 6 months later the same 2 brothers found an aborigine tribe that had that WT and had set up a religion around the things in the WT.

Discounting the question of exactly how much doctrine could be gleaned from a single issue, this one has still been bothering me for days. I think that someone took the cartoon course in kangaroo parenting. Honestly, even if you would thrust magazines into an animal's uterus, would you really expect someone else to reach in there and pull them out? And for the magazines to still be readable afterwards? This ain't the mailbox, folks.