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AGM 2014 Detailed Highlights - including talks summary.

by Da.Furious in

it is more likely to be one attack under different names.. gog of magog is not satan but a coalition of nations.

1. what do talents represent?

so who has the 5 talents?

Da.Furious

@sir82, all notes i received via email and transferred them to here without editing.

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AGM 2014 Detailed Highlights - including talks summary.

by Da.Furious in

it is more likely to be one attack under different names.. gog of magog is not satan but a coalition of nations.

1. what do talents represent?

so who has the 5 talents?

AGM 2014 Detailed Highlights - including talks summary.

by Da.Furious in

it is more likely to be one attack under different names.. gog of magog is not satan but a coalition of nations.

1. what do talents represent?

so who has the 5 talents?

Da.Furious

Speaker: David Splane

TYPES AND ANTI-TYPES

Type: representation of something that will happen in the future (tabernacle/copper serpent Jn 3:14,15)

Anti-type: the reality (the temple)

Why do our publications no longer refer to types? Who decides this?

Only if a type is referred to specifically in the bible then we refer to it. Scholars have tried to make types of bible accounts.

Our aim is to look for practical application. We Cannot go beyond what is written, Romans 15:4 "For all the things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope."

Speaker: Geoffrey Jackson

WHO WILL SOON ATTACK GODS PEOPLE?

The closer we get the finer our understanding is tuned to bible. Soon after the outbreak of the great tribulation and before anointed are taken to heaven, there will be an attack on gods people. Ezekiel 37.

Who really is Gog of Magog? In the past we said and understood it was Satan after being ousted from heaven.

Let us consider following:

Ezekiel 39:4 “On the mountains of Israel you will fall, you and all your troops and the peoples who will be with you. I will give you as food to all kinds of birds of prey and the wild beasts of the field.”’

Ezekiel 39:11 “‘On that day I will give Gog a burial place there in Israel, in the valley of those who travel east of the sea, and it will block the path of those passing through. That is where they will bury Gog and all his hordes, and they will call it the Valley of Hamon-Gog.”

Revelation 20:7,8 “Now as soon as the 1,000 years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison, 8 and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Maʹgog, to gather them together for the war. The number of these is as the sand of the sea.”

How is Gog to be buried in the earth? If Satan is Gog how will he gather himself?

Are these all different attacks? Or one attack? It is more likely to be one attack under different names.

Gog of Magog is not Satan but a coalition of nations. Gog and Magog represent more than one nation. This raises the question: Is it this coalition related to attack of king of the north?

Ezekiel 38:6, 25 vs Daniel 11:44, 45, 12:1

Can't say but likely could be the same identity.

Speaker: Stephen Lett

WILL YOU KEEP ON THE WATCH?

10 virgins Matthew 25:1-13

1. What is basic message?

As an example let us look into Luke 11:5-12 it talks about a man who persisted to borrow loaves from his neighbour at midnight.

What does this mean? Do we need to make comparisons to every detail? Why midnight? What does 3 loaves mean? Who are the children? If we over-analyse we will miss the point. The point is clear here, if we go to Jehovah in prayer he will always listen to us.

Going back to the parable in Matthew 25:1-13

We thought: lamps, oil, flask, etc. meant something.

Who is bridegroom? Jesus (Luke 5 Jesus identifies himself)

Who are the virgins? (2 Co 11:2 Paul identifies anointed as virgins)

Time frame? Verse 10 mentions that the bridegroom came (during the great tribulation)and it must apply during the last days climax at the great tribulation.

What is the basic message?

The warnings in these parables apply to both classes anointed and other sheep.

2. How does this apply to anointed?

The 5 discreet virgins counted cost of faithful service. They gave up material advantages and continued shining as illuminators. In verse 5 it shows all virgins fell asleep, spiritual drowsiness is a danger to all. If you sleep momentarily we need wake up and remain prepared especially during the Interval between the shout in verse 6 and arrival of bridegroom.

This refers to the Interval between Jesus presence, 1914, and his arrival at great tribulation. Then the verses talk about verbal exchange between foolish and wise virgins, when this happened? During and near end of great tribulation.

Some anointed who have slept will not receive sealing, thus will be shocked and the faithful anointed will not be able to help them. They will not receive reward and will realize they have been replaced.

So does this mean half of the anointed are foolish? No, half of anointed will not become unfaithful. All the anointed have the choice to remain faithful.

3. How can we all benefit? Mark 13:37 "But what I say to you, I say to all: Keep on the watch." Foolish virgins asked discreet for oil for their lamps, this was a vain request. No one can keep on the watch for us, it is each ones responsibility to keep on the watch and be prepared. The Bridegroom is coming very soon!!

Speaker: Anthony Morris

THE PARABLE OF THE TALENTS

Matthew 25:14-30

1. What do talents represent? (Kingdom Book, page 37 par 18)

Jesus mentions 8 talents, each talent is 6,000 denarii. Before Jesus ascended to heaven he expected business to be done on the earth. So the talents he is referring to represent the responsibility to preach and make disciples.

2. How have talents been used?

First century Christians did Jesus', the kings, business. In year 1919 it was the harvest time. So who has the 5 talents? or the 2 talents? Nobody! The slaves just doubled their efforts. That's all what Jesus was trying to get across.

3. When does master come?

In the past we said 1919. And then will be great tribulation. If we look at the context in Matthew 24:3 and what was the disciples question. Jesus answer is found in rest of Matthew 24 and all of 25. All of these scriptures are talking about his coming at great tribulation.

4. Who does wicked slave represent?

He deliberately worked against masters interests. Jehovah and Jesus do not tolerate sluggish. In the past we said it was a class of anointed who refused to preach. but now we understand it is just a warning.

5. What two lessons do we learn?

Commission to preach is most important! Do you cherish privilege to preach and make disciples? Jesus Christ expects everyone to be diligent in our preaching work, both anointed and other sheep.

In summary of the Highlights from the AGM:

Two new understandings of the Matthew 25

Gog and Magog is not Satan, it represents a group of nations.

New songs. The song book will be updated and songs will be available online as they become ready.

New world transaction now available in pocket size

Launch of jw TV broadcasting station (tv.jw.org)

New jw language app to learn languages.

New long caleb and Sofia video

Da Furious

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JW LANGUAGE app

by wifibandit in

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full set: http://imgur.com/a/yivkd.

Da.Furious

I also noticed the same request for permissions on the APP. In my opinion this is a trap to identify faders or JW who browse apostate material.

I have checked most of the apps on my tablet and phone (android) and non except for browsers request the web history access.

Somebody has to flag this to everyone to be careful.

Maybe some technical guys can comment on this app permission. Can we raise our concerns with Google Play about the behaviour of this app and why does it need these permissions.

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UK KH projection equipment

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

as everyone knows, there have been major changes in kh financing recently.

this means that congs should only have funds equal to 3 months expenditure on hand - send the rest to the borg.

in the uk there has also been an appeal to send extra funds to finance the new bethel (if we are going to print our own literature and show videos on the doors, why do they need a new bethel?).

Da.Furious

Verified: At the moment RBC is mobilising teams to install projectors in kingdom halls.

In my experience, the society will provide a list of recommended equipment to use, and if they need the WTS support they have to stick to the list. Usually all stick to the list, very rarely someone will get an item not specified, but the issue will be when asking bethel to help in installing, they will get zero help because these are not recommended equipment.

Very simple like any other company, get your own laptop you are on your own!

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Jewish Exodus from Egypt - Documatary - 20 Jun 2013

by Da.Furious in

i have received a link from a friend of mine, he is a baptist pastor.. link address is here.. the article title is: if you dont think the jewish exodus from egypt was real, then watch this video and think again.

the important or interesting thing in this youtube video is that it has some evidence, as the researcher claims, that the exodus happened and the red sea split into two in addition to evidence of egyptian army died at the location.. the documentary is 1 hour 24 minutes long.. .

apologies if this was posted previously but i ran a search and couldnt identify similar one.. as some of you know i am a born-in active jw with a mind of his own!.

Da.Furious

Hi,

I have received a link from a friend of mine, he is a Baptist Pastor.

Link address is here.

The article title is: If You Don’t Think The Jewish Exodus From Egypt Was Real, Then Watch This Video And Think Again

The important or interesting thing in this YouTube video is that it has some evidence, as the researcher claims, that the exodus happened and the red sea split into two in addition to evidence of Egyptian army died at the location.

The documentary is 1 hour 24 minutes long. Link to video is embedding does not work: http://youtu.be/UnMwW-GAKvA

Apologies if this was posted previously but i ran a search and couldn’t identify similar one.

As some of you know i am a born-in active JW with a mind of his own!

Since childhood i was taught that all biblical events are true and historians don’t have the full picture and slowly evidence is showing that the bible is true.

So for anyone who does not believe in these events please do not kill the messenger. I myself have my doubts on some events.

Da Furious

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"Jehovah's Witnesses do better after surgery without transfusion" - Article (July 3, 2012)

by Da.Furious in

this article from 2012 published by the birmingham news showed up on my facebook page.. what i would have liked to see in the statistics is the inclusion of total jws refusing blood transfusion and their survival rate not only the ones taht surviced, taking about only survivors is not like for like comparison in my opinion with patients who take blood transfusion and then dont survive.. .

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Da.Furious

This article from 2012 published by The Birmingham News showed up on my facebook page.

What i would have liked to see in the statistics is the inclusion of total JWs refusing blood transfusion and their survival rate not only the ones taht surviced, taking about only survivors is not like for like comparison in my opinion with patients who take blood transfusion and then dont survive.

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poll, why would you hide it your buisness/job

by sowhatnow in

how many people on here who were or are jws, owned or ran a buisness who would not willingly let people at the k hall know, maybe to avoid feeling like you had to give your fellow brothers and sisters a discount, or free help, or out of fear of being judged.

did you only help out the pioneers?

and not the poor ones?

Da.Furious

When i was starting my computers business, hardware and software, i did the mistake of informing few brothers. And that was it for me, everyone in the congregation expected me to install or fix stuff free of charge. The method was inviting me for dinner, at the time i started wondering why the sudden love, and half way through dinner the request will be fired in a sneaky way: I have done everything but struggled with the last bit, appreciate if you can just advise me after dinner how should i continue.

Business closed, but now i am the congregation free consultant on the latest gadgets and i don’t even get a thank you!

Comparing them to my colleagues at work, at least i get a beer, thank you card or small gift.

Da Furious

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Powerful photo

by zakharijah in

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hi,.

i just stumbled upon this photo on facebook (pic by david j. m. coleman), and as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.... .

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Da.Furious

Putting on my JW hat:

Why would we waste any money on this person, we have the best news in the world that will change his life. Also WTS teaches us not to follow materialistic things and don’t think about money.

Since this system is ever so close, this poor person only needs to learn about the truth and this will be the best help we give him by saving his live.

Removing my JW hat:

What a load of crap, just help the guy with either giving him some money or buy him a meal!

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RBC New Update and new Britain Bethel News

by Da.Furious in

i have posted some of this info in a different post but due to the additional information i heard i have decided to put all this under new topic.. rbc update (apparently this information is global):.

rbc will be dissolved on 5 october 2014. majority of departments will be shut down and handed over to bethel (construction, planning, training, it and legal definitely will be gone).

age criteria for the new department is under 50 years old.

Da.Furious

@katewild i did not see the commercial aspect in writing but i was speaking with a brother who has been approached based on commercial base and asked to put in his quote for the work they want him to do - he mentioned all major construction work will have very few volunteers helping. Volunteers will be helping in internal work, painting, plastering, carpet, etc.

With the removal of RBC and requiring skilled under 50s this is not going to happen with JW volunteers. As mentioned also the cost for building all the flats for the volunteers will add substantial amount to the project and would be cheaper to hire external companies - no need to worry about insurance, accommodation and not doing the right job!