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  Speculation on why now?

  by Crazyguy in

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  in the last couple of years the org has gone money crazy, selling off over a billion dollars worth of property and now a new tithing program.

  just wonder what every one thinks is the reason for all this now?.

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  Da.Furious

  My take on this arrangement after reading several posts is:

  1- The WTS can project the future income they are getting for any planning purposes/investment - that’s why companies like subscription services, they are the best business model - steady stream of money.

  2- By taking the surplus from KH accounts, the congregations technically are poor and would always rely on the WTS for any funding - More control on KH

  3- With the new CO arrangement WTS cuts any Organisational ties with the congregation - elders are not appointed by them

  4- If a money rich congregation had paedophile among them and there was court case, the court cannot link to WTS (check point 3), and cannot sue the congregation because they don’t have money!
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  Smoking

  by FL_Panthers in

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  2. bible

  i heard that the witnesses used to smoke back in the day.

  is this true?

  if so, what was the reasoning behind this?.

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  Da.Furious

  So what about e-cigarates? Is this wrong too?
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  JW.ORG ABOUT TO WIN THE LOTTERY!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after the reading out of the letter about the "new donation arrangement" this week, there is going to be a flood of money pouring into the org's coffers!.

  not only from the bank accounts of the sheep, but soon after from the bulk of money in kingdom hall accounts worldwide!.

  question: has anyone calculated how much cash could be grabbed from the 113,823 congregations on earth?.

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  Da.Furious

  I am part of a congregation with a balance of between £20,000 and £30,000!

  I think congregations with higher percentage of retired brothers and sisters have tendency to be rich.

  As I come from a developing country, the accounts for several congregations are maximum in their few USD100s.

  For this analysis I would suggest taking out all the congregations in poor countries and assign a minimal amount and then the developed country assign your $5K figures.

  I believe the figure will be halved, but still that’s too much money to handle in one go - Wondering what the purpose is for this.

  Need to check where they plan to invest them and start buying shares!
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  A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

  by TTATTelder in

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  2. beliefs

  the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

  you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

  well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

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  Da.Furious

  Thanks Splash.
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  A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

  you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

  well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

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  Da.Furious

  Was the letter read in any congregation? Here in UK asked 2 friends and they dont recall anything like this has been read in yesterdays meeting.

  Tonight we have our meeting and will see if they read it.

  I stopped contributing years ago and dont know if this is to expose people like me and what would be the outcome - not planning to fund the court cases account!
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  BOE - PDF - CONFIDENTIAL 2014-04-22 Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants

  by WatchTower87 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  boe - confidential.

  instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.

  no virus ;-).

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  Da.Furious

  Letter read out in our congregation on Friday! I dont think anyone understood what it meant, even the elder who read it. His comment was, and i quote: "It is very intersteing to see how the organisation is moving forward, and see what benefits this change will bring"
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  Recent changes

  by Thumblina in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was on this board a lot when i faded and left 6 years ago but not been on much since.

  is there any thread/s in particular to read showing the changes in the past 5 years?

  or any kind willing person who has time to summarise them as a reply below??

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  Did anyone mention the overlapping generation?

  I wonder if you ask any hardline JW this question, would they list them all?
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  Any Suggestions on what to say if elders ask why you stopped going in FS?

  by BU2B in

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  i was curious what might be some good things to say if i am questioned by the elduurs about my decline in fs.

  anything too honest may get me a jc (although that would be for the best in the end..) the co visit is this week so they may be getting more agressive than usual.

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  I had several unofficial discussions by elders about my reduces FS, i average 2-4hrs per months. I always told them i don’t like ministry and it is not for me. I am happy to give support the local cong with maintenance days, gardening, RBC but not going d2d. I hate it and think it is waste of time!

  I even quote the bible and say some servant of Jah were workers and they were not asked to preach, same thing during Jesus times, not everyone was a preacher. Consider me Admin.

  Guess what happens, i get more responsibilities within!

  I think sometimes honesty works.
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  Watchtower Travel Agency ???

  by 4thgen in

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  2. friends

  who is making the travel arrangements for the international conventions?

  i heard somewhere they did not use outside sources anymore to coordinate the airfares, etc..

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  My understanding is that for this year, maybe only for UK, everyone arranges his travel personally except for Hotel; you have to book (directly not via Branch) the preselected hotel by the society.

  Previous to this, the international conventions were part of a package that was offered by the society. I presume this has caused too much admin and complaints of expensive packages.

  Now they get commission from Hotel bookings without any admin resources - sounds profitable!

  And as always, donate for the the free buses/coaches at the assembly.
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  Did You Go To The Memorial?

  by minimus in

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  i didn't and i don't care about it..

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  Da.Furious

  I went to the memorial - or as it was referred to celebration of Christ’s death!

  It was OK, until the speaker started messing up the talk and no one passed wine or bread to him. Also the sound brothers put the wrong song for the final one.

  Besides that, nice pictures with friends and family beside the flowers.