for believers:.
does an omniscient god's permission of the loss of human life due to natural disasters imply some sort of negligence?.
if god possesses the power to prevent suffering, but chooses not to, what reasonable explanation can be offered?
nvr - are you sitting in judgment of God?
I AM! memememe! If we're going to sit in judgment of God, I NEED to be on the committee. I've already got my sternly worded letter of admonishment half-drafted. This will get me some good ideas on how to finish it with a KICK.
let's say your spouse admitted to having sex with animals, you went to the elders and they told you that you were not free to remarry -- but you went ahead, divorced the scumbag, and remarried someone else.
you, of course, got disfellowshipped.
since then, the society reverses its position.
Haha! That's like DF for masturbation. EVERYBODY DOES IT, it wouldn't be fair to DF just for getting caught.
let's say your spouse admitted to having sex with animals, you went to the elders and they told you that you were not free to remarry -- but you went ahead, divorced the scumbag, and remarried someone else.
you, of course, got disfellowshipped.
since then, the society reverses its position.
Since the WT has said that if a person is disfellowshipped, he has already been DF in heaven, it seems they cannot make the mistake of reversing a decision made in HEAVEN.
Paperwork issues with the main office. Makes perfect sense to me, I deal with regulators. Government screwups and incompetance are pretty much the cost of doing business.
Soo, check this out. If you want to REPENT, how do you do that? you come in and apologize sincerely for being right?
well, i've been thinking deep and hard about "what is wrong" with the borg.
lots of people believe shit that ain't true, thats not it.
lots of people pick and choose their friends and associates based on who is like them, that's not it.
Yes, Yes, Yes.
Masturbatory. Indeed. What I was trying to get at must be the way SOO much is shut down and suppressed, relationships are so fake, truth telling is feared and punished, and it all swirls around keeping "YOUR OWN" delusions. It isn't about being a community, it isn't about sharing, its about a safe environment for all out Spiritual Masturbation.
I've noticed that even when I was in you couldn't "talk" about faith with JW's. You could take turns spouting catchphrases and "encouraging" eachother, you could not at any time actually get one to have a conversation with you. Its like everyone knows that is crap, they're masturbating quietly in the corner and they're afraid that someone will walk in and catch them.
So lonely and so sad, even amongst the "friends".
Thanks! You've shown me more Light.
Bring_the_Light
tons around here and i was just talking to an active person in nh and 5 or 6 people in her cong alone got d'f just in the last 6 months to a year.... is this happening everywhere or just around here???
anyone have approximate stats around where you live??
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ROLL CALL!!
IF YOU ARE LURKING AND HAVE BEEN DISFELLOWSHIPPED IN THE PAST YEAR, POST "HERE" AND STATE THE REASON OF YOUR SEPARATION FROM JEHOVAH's BORGANISATION.
Thanks.
this is a text message i just received from a guy who was in my old congregation.
(ps, no there was no shenanigans going on there, i wasn't interested in this guy in that way...even though he was possibly the best friend i had ever had within jws).. "hi rob.
please come back to the truth.
I was just thinking, why don't you just invite him out, keep in touch, and just straight-up IGNORE the fact that you "AREN"T SUPPOSED TO" be friends?
Let the Shunner do the shunning. You don't need to make it your issue.
tons around here and i was just talking to an active person in nh and 5 or 6 people in her cong alone got d'f just in the last 6 months to a year.... is this happening everywhere or just around here???
anyone have approximate stats around where you live??
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BWahaha! It Has beGUN!
I'm thinking a youth revolution and/or an apostate witchhunt. Some event where the sheeple push back on the organization for the first time ever in a fairly organized manner.
I'm sure there's a lot boiling under the surface with internet access. If I had this when i was a kid there would be a picture of me waving a "freeminds" flag from the top of the building in Brooklyn (*allusion to Russian Army's capture of the Reitchstag*).
I'm really new, I've heard allusions to a period of "apostate" hunts a few years ago? Has the war already been fought and lost?
One thing I'm sure of is the Light will grow brighter still.
Bring_the_Light
so most of you have probably seen my youtube video what you should know about jehovah's witnesses, which can be found here.
naturally, this draws quite a negative response from the jw community, but this particular person decided to send me a personal message.. you wanna talk smack about witnesses or anyone in general you better have your facts straight.
everything you said is taken almost enitrly out of context to our true practices.
Seriously, how do you argue with someone so delusional, someone who has NO idea what his church even teaches? Some of the things he's saying could get him disfellowshipped, yet he still trods along as a good little Watchtower sheep, spreading the good news he apparently knows nothing about.
You should tell him that the Watchtower forbids talking to Apostates (and give him a message from the Apostates that we prefer it that way).
figured i'd do a topic for it.
i'm trying to quit for at least a month - just found i was drinking a bit to much with all the stress.... anyways, its been 10 days since i last had a drink.. how long has it been for you?
how long are you trying to go without drinking?.
Ok, I need help too. I can't seem to give a crap about alcohol. There was a short period of time where it was fun to go out and get wasted, now I'll buy a case of beer or hard liquor and forget to drink it.
Its interfering with my social relationships. I want to be a drunk, help me!
I don't know what the deal is, I have a lot of alcoholics in my family. I must have gotten the recessive gene. poo.
Bring_the_Light
