Spec,
So if we have to wait on Jehovah, then why rely on a organization, now? Why not just rely on Jehovah and wait on the organization to catch up.
Happy to be Free (Me)
now we all know for you who have attended meetings at the kingdom hall and heard speakers from the platform give us bible verses and telling us that the ruler of this world is the devil of which i firmly believe due to the fact that this world is completely warped.. .
doesn't it strike you funny to see that satan who makes the rules for his system can't keep them and tries to manipulate rules and regulations always in his favor and that of his seed.. .
#1 example- did you know that according to the bible that satan's agents keep transforming themselves into agents of light.
Spec,
So if we have to wait on Jehovah, then why rely on a organization, now? Why not just rely on Jehovah and wait on the organization to catch up.
Happy to be Free (Me)
my kid brother, tom, was born to witness parents.
he was something of a surprise package and my parents were delighted.
my father said that tom was:.
Trevor,
Your advice was wonderful, and I agree 100%. But to live it is another. My therapist and my close friends have told me the same thing. But I really don't think it's a fear of failure, because that is usually the fear that I thrive on. But taking on a JOB that I am not happy with, is ringing true. I always wanted to teach, or to do work in the sociology field. And everytime I would get up the nerve to pursue these careers, I would get a promotion or offered a high profile job that would get my blood pumping again. I quit my job in November, to find myself and to do what I always wanted. So today, I'm going to fill out an application to substitute teach until I can get my teaching certificate.
So thank you for your wonderful advice. You can send me your bill.
Happy to be Free (Me)
in a recent topic someone mentioned how much they have drifted from god since they "left the jw's.".
as someone brought up in the org (inactive for several years)i have found this to be similiar in my case.
i don't know how much i believe the fan/plug analogy (remember that in the live forever book?
Eyes,
I think that is one of the greatest songs. Those lyrics are just GREAT. You have to love a guy like John.
Happy to be Free (Me)
i have a little theory buzzing around in the back of my mind.
it was triggered by trevors comments re the low self esteem that is endured by many jw youngsters.. i`m wondering if the singing of kingdom songs can actually make you feel depressed and worthless.
i know it might seem a strange idea at first, but see if my reasoning doesn`t make at least some sense.. i frequently see the tv ad for linguaphone, the language learning course, that uses your repetition of foreign language phrases spoken along with a cassette recording.
Venice,
I'm laughing my butt off, I must admit the Kingdom music is GOD awful. But I do remember one time, my family was attending a dedication of an assembly hall in Chicago. And there was this sister on the keyboards who pumped up those Kingdom songs, I know she was probably a rhythm and blues pianist before becoming a J-Dub. But that was the only time I can say I was looking forward to the Kingdom Songs.
Another true story, when I first started having periods of severe depression, the sound of Kingdom Songs would make me cry uncontrollable (sp?), so I would go to the meeting later and step outside during the intermission and would leave early.
Lisa,
You mention some great music, and I was surprised at a wedding I attended at a church, the lady was singing what you would consider secular music. I was a little shock, but realized, all music is uplifting if it is done with taste and great talents are behind it.
Happy to be Free (Me)
Grunt,
As always, I agree with you sentiments 100%.
Happy to be Free (Me)
in a recent topic someone mentioned how much they have drifted from god since they "left the jw's.".
as someone brought up in the org (inactive for several years)i have found this to be similiar in my case.
i don't know how much i believe the fan/plug analogy (remember that in the live forever book?
Hi Alias,
After reading the post so far, I can see that many of us have similar feelings.
JT,
That was a great post, pretty much sum up my feelings about the God of the Bible.
RHW,
I think I have your line of thought. That we all are Divine, and we just have to keep our minds open and free to tap into all of our gifts.
It is so stange that I don't believe in the God of the Bible. But, now I feel so close to God (don't know what his name is, what his purpose is, etc.), but I do know that someone created us and I want to work with what I have now - A beautiful body, mind and spirit. I don't want to spend my life here worried about my afterlife. I don't want to treat people nice, because of a reward tommorrow. I want to smell the sweet flowers, air and witness what God want me to have NOW, I want to think good thoughts and carry out good deeds, because they make my heart sing NOW. I want to get to know my fellow wo(man) the good and the bad, so I take their life lessons to help shape my life lessons. I don't want to read a Book that is suppose to be the word of God and fight and squabble about its contents. I don't want to condemn others for not carry my beliefs, but to try to understand theirs (even thought it is hard).
Well, as you can see I could go on and on. And only because I am so Happy to Be Free to Tthink for Me.
does anyone enjoy smooth, mellow jazz??.
check out this site.
http://www.jazzfm.com.
She (Sade) is definitely JAZZ and she is DIVINE, or the Band is Divine. Her current CD is so AWESOMe, my favorite song is Lovers Rock. I love Jazz, I have two friends who a Jazz vocalist and my husband and I enjoy visiting local Jazz Clubs in support of them.
Happy to be Free (Me)
my kid brother, tom, was born to witness parents.
he was something of a surprise package and my parents were delighted.
my father said that tom was:.
I don't think I ever bought the men are superior. I have worked in a male dominated field for 15 yrs. (construction) and have succeeded very well. I have found with men, you cuss them out, do your job better than any man, and they will respect you. I am more afraid of the SUCCESS, afriad ist's going to be taken away. It's a feeling I always feel when I'm approaching new terriorty. And I know it's because of my childhood as a JW. I spent my entire childhood trying not to be noticed, but someone always seem to find me. The the teachers, civic organization, etc., would beg my parents to allow me to participate and the answer was always no. So as sad as it may seem As Happy as I am to be Free, many times I want to return to that cage.
And today I just want to feel a little angry about the little trick that was played on my parents, when that nice little lady knocked on their door and offered them paradise.
Happy to be Free (Me)
it's true!
many of you here who scoff at the battle of armaggedon being a reality are in for a big surprise.
it will be a fear inspiring day in which there will only be one side that will survive.
Spec,
But didn't Jehovah create the Devil. Where did the Devil get his evil qualities. And why does God feel he must let the Devil continue in his wickedness for so long. It seems that God is the Egocentric maniac, to allow the Devil to continue to harm his children.
Happy to be Free (Me)
my kid brother, tom, was born to witness parents.
he was something of a surprise package and my parents were delighted.
my father said that tom was:.
Trevor,
You are a wise man. You summed up the JW Kid experience.
But the question of how to break that from your childhood pschological damage. I still struggle with self-esteem. Whenever I see myself suceeding, I become afraid and just quit. Throughout my entire childhood whenever I was successful, I was always told I could not accept my reward, because I was a JW.
How in the HELL do you stop telling yourself NO. And just accept progress. Excuse me for venting, but, I have been offered two GREAT job opportunities and I'm so afraid of SUCCESS and I don't know why. I don't think I'm as afraid of Success as I'm afraid of competition, because I still see competition as something bad. Anyone else have this type of problem, and if so, how did/are you cope/copeing.
Happy to be Free (Me)
No matter how far you think you are from the WTBS, it always F***ing haunts you.