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  Why do Jehovah`s Witnesses Shun fellow believers When God and Jesus never shunned even Satan ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  scholars generally agree that it was written between the 7th and 4th centuries bce, with the 6th century bce as the most likely period for various reasons.

  the book of job .. so according to jw`s about 6,000 years ago satan rebelled against jehovah god ,did jehovah disown him there and then shunning him ?.

  apparently not as we can read from the book of job centuries later that satan could still come and go freely before the throne of jehovah in heaven .job 1: 6. and apparently he could still do this for centuries later ,that is coming to and fro before jehovah because according to the jw religion he wasn`t cast out of heaven for another 2,000 years until the 20th century .. now in the case of jesus much of what is said about jehovah and satan also applies to jesus before he came to earth.. but even when he was on earth he didn`t shun satan either in fact he allowed satan to lead him around according to the bible account.luke 4:13 so the devil having concluded all the temptations retired from him until another convenient time .so it wasn`t jesus calling the shots here it was satan .. mark 1: 13 he ,jesus, also shared 40 days in the wilderness with satan letting him tempt him .. so their was no way either jehovah or jesus ever shunned satan the devil according to the bible writings.. and when jesus ascended to heaven after his sacrifice he along with his father jehovah still had association with satan the devil until he was cast out of heaven 2,000 years later ,according to the jw`s..

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  it's only about loyalty to an organization--has nothing to do with god!

  The JWS heads (GB) claim to be god's spiritually chosen ones, so to object to their expressed doctrines (bible interpretations) is in kind objecting to god Jehovah an act of apostasy.

  Likewise the ancient Hebrew high priests could have one of their citizens killed for acts of apostasy if the person was persistent .

  A semblance of power and control supports those men who are at the the top of the power structure which can be seen in most organized religions.
  
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  YOU are the Proof God exists!

  by MuchCloserLook in

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  Do to the human species in growing large brains through biological evolution we have the capacity to both imagine and envision supernatural beings without any physical evidence.

  Are past ancestors imagined various select gods from various civilizations to which some were even said to talk and communicate to the people who worshiped these specific gods.
  
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  YOU are the Proof God exists!

  by MuchCloserLook in

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  Finkelstein

  It would appear after reading MCL's posts that he's just come to this forum to troll.

  Having an open discussion about a tropic is not on his prevailing agenda
  

  therefore .........

  
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  YOU are the Proof God exists!

  by MuchCloserLook in

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  You ( MCL ) are proof that fear, superstition and ignorance exists.

  Which to no doubt has been indoctrinated into your mind and conscious by religious propagation.

  Oh yeah welcome to the forum
  
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  EVERY Religion has Hypocrites- even the TRUE One!

  by MuchCloserLook in

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  so, if you expect to find 'saints' with halos, you will never find real christians.. after over 30 years of being a jw, there are many things about the org that disturb me- yet no one else even acknowledges the only true god, as jesus referred to him.. not a 'they' or 'them' ('trinity')- but him!and he has always had the name jehovah (yehovah in hebrew)- even though the koine greek had no version of it when the nt was written.. so among the many things real christians have to endure- is often each other!

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  Now if we can only locate a true religion that would make that statement valid.
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  YOU are the Proof God exists!

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  the gaping holes suddenly appeared!

  Care to elaborate ?
  

  I hope your not holding up the creationist dogma of "where are the intermediate species in the fossil record ?"
  
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  YOU are the Proof God exists!

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  Finkelstein- but at least they knew better than to think we made ourselves!

  Who said we made are selves ? , that's not what evidential biological evolution is.

  Nature create all things in the universe and we now have the knowledge to prove that.
  
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  EVERY Religion has Hypocrites- even the TRUE One!

  by MuchCloserLook in

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  so, if you expect to find 'saints' with halos, you will never find real christians.. after over 30 years of being a jw, there are many things about the org that disturb me- yet no one else even acknowledges the only true god, as jesus referred to him.. not a 'they' or 'them' ('trinity')- but him!and he has always had the name jehovah (yehovah in hebrew)- even though the koine greek had no version of it when the nt was written.. so among the many things real christians have to endure- is often each other!

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  Learning the Catholic Cult was so deceptive

  But you haven't accepted the fact that the WTS/JWS was started by deceptive, sinning false prophet apostates running their own publishing house ?

  Obviously you haven't found what it is to be truly righteous and loyal in god's eyes.

  Your still devoted and loyal to sinning men who are condemned, supporting their own will and purpose not god's or his son's. .
  

  If you respect Jesus and his words for preaching his new Kingdom order you would have left the JWS cult years a go.
  
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  Bill Gates Foundation

  by jhine in

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  hi everyone , how are ya'll ?

  l have a question particularly for any americans on here .

  l have an american friend from la who has recently been trying very hard to investigate bill gates and his foundation , she has shared quotes from a lot people making very serious accusations against bill .

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  When l mentioned this to my friend l was told that l couldn't trust anything online because basically Bill and his cronies manipulated the internet .

  Yes Bill and his cronies control everyone's mind and thoughts, spooky yes but true.

  All religions and all governments.

  Say have you ever seen your friend walk around with tin foil on her head ?
  
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  YOU are the Proof God exists!

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  The ancients who imagined and created supernatural beings who supposedly created and controlled events and occurrences here on earth didn't have the knowledge we have now.

  These supernatural beings were a necessary answer to the world in which they experienced.

  Human ignorance is a indefensible fact.