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  long time lurker (3-4 years) first time poster

  by Patient-dude in

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  hey i have come to love some of the discussions on here and the information.

  i am currently awake and have no plans to fade, in my case i am patient enough to in time become an elder to at least help the younger friends here in my area, in the sense of helping them wake up/if elder have their back..

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  DNCall

  Welcome Patient-dude. Your OP and replies have raised a question for me. Is there anyone reading this, or anyone any of you know of, who "awakened" because they were coaxed by someone else to do so? This isn't a rhetorical question. I'd really like some feed-back.

  The reason I ask is that, from what I know, each of us has to initiate the process of awakening on our own. SomeTHING or someTHINGS have to trigger OUR thinking so as to begin to dismantle the programming (as opposed to someONE).

  As time goes on, I believe there will be more and more THINGS that will trigger members to wake up. My current opinion is that things (i.e., events, actions, rulings, changes in policy, scandal, erroneous theology/chronology/prgonositcation) will change members' thinking, not the persuasion of someone on the inside. I'm not asking for your thoughts just for me, but for Patient-dude and everyone else.
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  Another probe of the Governing Body theory

  by QC in

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  note the activity topology of spiritually "gifted" faithful religiously pure network of individual christians sustaining the therapeia (qerapeiavhousehold for spiritual cure) lu 12:42under the leadership of jesus in heaven.

  all accomplished by autonomous ecclesia without central control from jerusalem.

  this is the model antecedent for today's class of individual "faithful discreet" slaves.

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  How effective was the one edict that came out of the meeting in Jerusalem? That meeting occurred in 49 CE.

  As Paul revisited various congregations my means of his letters he had to also revisit the circumcision issue because whatever was decided in Jerusalem did not bind the other congregations. In 50-52 CE Paul had to counsel the Galations about returning to the yoke of slavery to the law. In 55 CE Paul had to settle disputes in the Corinthian Congregation regarding circumcision. In 60-61 CE, Paul had to counsel the Philippians that debates over the circumcision issue were causing spiritual injury. Finally, in 61-64 CE, when writing to Titus regarding the Christians in Crete, he spoke of expelling from the congregation those who were furthering the controversy.

  Over time we see the issue becoming larger and more serious. This is hardly what you would expect from congregations bound by a decision made by a governing body in Jerusalem.
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  Where Does The Governing Body Stand On Corporate Transparency And Their Fudiciary Duty To Their Members Who Trust Them?

  by frankiespeakin in

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  i'm thinking the governing body needs to improve its corporation's transparency, and that it has a fudiciary duty towards all members to do so.

  yet it makes very little information availible to check.

  guidestar site3.

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  A major reason for creating a complicated network of specialized corporations some years ago was to isolate and protect the Governing Body from legal action. In theory at least, corporate transparency is not something the Governing Body has to deal with. The creation of the various corporations hinders transparency. Any fiduciary duty would have to involve one or more of the corporations, not the Governing Body.
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  verybelated intro: Tylin

  by Tylinbrando in

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  2. friends

  so i have been a lurker on this forum since its inception.

  i registered over a year ago.

  i jumped in several months back with a highly controversial subject of my daughter being sexually abused by an elder and the efforts we were taking to bring him to justice.

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  We drove by the Cartinteria KH yesterday on the way to SB and thought of you. Thank you so much for an overview of your life. Continued success!
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  Short Introduction and Reply to Lazarus

  by Fading Begins in

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  hi lazarus - i'm new here, and i'm a little disturbed by some of the judgmental comments i have read here concerning your situataion.

  isn't that what the borg has done to all of us?

  each individuals situation can only be judged if that person walks in your shoes.

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  DNCall

  Bless your heart.
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  Candace Conti: Further Extension

  by DNCall in

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  the parties stipulated to another extension of 30 days.

  wts opening brief is now due on 3/8/31..

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  Oops. Good catch magotan. 3/8/13.
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  Candace Conti: Further Extension

  by DNCall in

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  the parties stipulated to another extension of 30 days.

  wts opening brief is now due on 3/8/31..

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  The parties stipulated to another extension of 30 days. WTS opening brief is now due on 3/8/31.
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  Candace Conti: WTS Notified Re Opening Appellate Brief

  by DNCall in

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  according to the docket, wts was notified that their opening brief has not been timely filed.

  their appeal will be dismissed if there is no further activity by february 22, 2013.

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  According to the docket, WTS was notified that their opening brief has not been timely filed. Their appeal will be dismissed if there is no further activity by February 22, 2013.
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  Hello??

  by franticfran in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have just joined this website and just wanted to say hello to anyone out there.

  i am so nervous,after thirty odd years in the "truth" i feel as though my husband and i have just walked into a room full of smiling strangers and we are just standing here hoping to god someone will come up and speak to us.

  scared and excited and hoping to wake up one morning and not wonder what we do now???

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  Hi Fran,

  The collective opinion here is that life is much better after leaving. My wife and I left in our late 50s, and have found that to be so true. You now have time to pursue things that really interest you. Having more time allows you to find out what really interests you, should your prior range of interest have been as narrow as the organization recommends.

  Here's to you enjoying your life to the full!
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and restaurant bills

  by usualusername in

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  did you ever have the experience of going to a restaurant with witnesses and spending 30mins sorting out the restaurant bill?.

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  thats something i miss since leaving... .

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  DNCall

  We once had a group of 15 or so musicians from the Watchtower orchestra dining at a very nice restaurant across from Carnegie Hall (Trattoria des Artistes--expensivo!). I am not exaggerating when I say it took over 15 minutes to apportion the bill. By that time, two of us were on the verge of simply splitting the bill between us, just to get out of there. There were at least two musicians with calculators. Thank god we weren't with a group of engineers or accountants!