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  Our “Bible Study” with the Jehovah’s Witnesses (Part 2)

  by garyneal in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well, my wife and i returned to the jw elders house for another bible study continuing the series in marriage.

  that study went pretty well, poking fun at each other concerning our marital issues and all.

  nothing in that particular study would seem to be bad or anything for after all, one cannot argue against the virtues of being faithful to your spouse and the marriage arrangement (at least for christians that is).

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  lancelink

  I truly enjoy your posts, very logical way of looking at the JW belief system.
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  A Jehovah’s Witness With A New Technique For Proselytizing: “Coffin Chasing”

  by Bangalore in

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  2. beliefs

  a jehovah's witness with a new technique for proselytizing: "coffin chasing".. .

  http://espottickler.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/a-jehovahs-witness-with-a-new-technique-for-proselytizing/.

  if you've ever been in an accident, you have experienced your sudden rise in popularity.

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  lancelink

  wow they actually care?

  My Mother died a year ago, she was a baptised JW for thirty years.

  My parents moved away to another state ten years ago.

  When she died about only five people just sent a card. NO ONE stopped over to "console" me, or even called on the phone.

  I'm happy to see that they are more focused on total strangers instead of people from their own congregation.
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  Appreciate your thoughts on this.

  by lancelink in

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  2. friends

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  lancelink

  I have a situation here that I would appreciate your comments on.

  I was a JW for thirty years, (RC before), married and raised my kids within the boundaries of this religion.

  About five years ago, my wife and I realized that it was not the truth we thought it was all these years so we left.

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  OK, at this point of my life I backed up, looked around and took a deep breath.

  My wife on the other hand started to study with the Mormons; she got baptized and jumped in the deep end.

  A year ago my Mom died suddenly, and that shook me to the core even further as to what god and his purposes are. I questioned more and more what I had been taught over the years.

  Meanwhile my wife is chugging away express train style in her new religion, and it seems everything, and everybody that is not wrapped up in Mormonism is not taken very seriously.

  Her father had Alzheimer’s for six years and he died two years ago. It was a very soul-searching time for the both of us and I allowed her to deal with her religious issues in a way that was beneficial for her well being.

  My dad lives across the country, I saw him last October, and he is becoming a “super witness” all of a sudden. Whenever we talk on the phone all I hear is how close the end is, and how I should get back to the KH and get involved. The end could come at any minute! Just look at how messed up the world is, CERTAINLY the end will come soon. This is coming from a man who was a textbook example of a half-hearted / doubting witness for over 25 years.

  Suddenly I amnoticing how I am right in the middle of a perfect storm of religious zealots.

  My two sons just roll their eyes when they hear the stories, and shake their heads regarding their mother.. Growing up as JW has made them very sensitive regarding how someone can push their beliefs over on others and how people can become “blinded” by a religious organization.

  Dealing with my mom’s death is one of the most difficult things that I have done, yet it seems that religious belief and viewpoints is throwing salt in the wound from close family members.

  My question is, how have any of you dealt with situations like this ?
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  Critical Times hard to deal with.....

  by acolytes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you fear the jehovers witnesses and the organisation ?.

  how is the watchtower still harassing you ?.

  i must sat i certainly applied the scripture on" critical times hard to deal with" towards the society and its members when i left.. acolytes.

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  lancelink

  I am not afraid of the organization.

  What I fear and dread is the influence they have on people, and how this power clouds their thinking ability.
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  Scientology gets RickRoll'd....funny

  by digderidoo in

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  don't know if this has been posted up before.. .

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohpjcznm8_k.

  paul.

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  lancelink

  tanks for the clarification, I understood what rick-rolling is but the video made no sense to me at first.

  There were no signs, or narration.
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  Scientology gets RickRoll'd....funny

  by digderidoo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  don't know if this has been posted up before.. .

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohpjcznm8_k.

  paul.

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  lancelink

  what in the world is this ??????????????????????????????
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  What is the JW story on baptisim?

  by Out at Last! in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  they claim that all of their beliefs and actions are based on the scriptures, so how can they justify 9,10 year olds, or even early teens getting baptized?

  jesus was 29, john the baptist was the same age or a year older.

  all of the others i recall from the ot & nt were adults.

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  lancelink

  Great thread, i appreciated all the comments.

  i was a witness for over 25 years, and not once did I question the WT stand on baptism !
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  where do you draw the line ?

  by lancelink in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last night i was talking to my son (24 years old) and he was telling me about his life growing up as a jw, .

  very frustrating for him, he couldn't have friends from school over, no joining clubs, sports, etc - etc.. but a very interesting point was made, and i never thought about it and it has been rolling around all day.

  as morphius said.

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  lancelink

  Last night I was talking to my son (24 years old) and he was telling me about his life growing up as a JW,

  Very frustrating for him, he couldn't have friends from school over, no joining clubs, sports, etc - etc.

  But a very interesting point was made, and I never thought about it and it has been rolling around all day. as Morphius said

  "Like a splinter in your mind" type of thought.

  He said that soccer is one of the most popular sports in the world today, and do YOU know how it got started ?

  A culture of people (I forgot who he said they were) would kick the heads of people killed or sacrificed around a field.

  As a JW I played this game quite often with no repercussions from anyone.

  Yet why is it that JW's will have nothing to do with Christmas, or any other holidays, yet soccer is OK ?

  It may sound somewhat strange, but I thought he made a good point. Playing a game that got its start from when people were murdered

  is alright. Yet a holiday (Christmas) is taboo from any angle for the jw's.

  Where is the line for good / bad drawn, and who draws it ?
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  Just back from the sunday session on the Kepp on the watch convention.

  by Belly in

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  lancelink

  "im gunna adopt more of a live and let live attitude. And in retrospect i can laugh at the nonsense they belive so firmly in a nostaligic way rather than a resentful way."

  thanks for the statement,

  I have been trying to follow this thought myself, it is difficult.

  In order to move on I think your right.

  It does becomes more nostalgic with time.
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  France event ??

  by lancelink in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  this message was emailed to me today,,.

  historic event in france!!!!!!.

  we would like to share with you an experience related by .

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  lancelink

  OK, let me try this one more time,,,, sorry :

  Historic EVENT IN FRANCE !!!!!!
  
  We would like to share with you an experience related by
  brother Baudril, from the Hospital Liaison Committee,
  during a recent circuit assembly in Marseilles .
  Margo, a premature baby, born at 30 weeks gestation, weighing
  only 1.2 kg (2.65 lbs) with a very low blood count, the
  doctors feel it important to administer a blood transfusion. The parents,
  Jehovah's Witnesses, contact the H.L.C.. A process is started, faxes are sent, and
  the brothers propose to the doctors if they would accept to administer
  erythroproeteine (EPO, synthetic hormones which stimulate the production
  of red blood cells) for three days. The doctors accept, and the Bethel supplied the product. After 3 days the blood count stabilises. The brothers propose a fourth day of EPO and the count rises. So the treatment is approved and
  continued. Margo, who was nicknamed, ''Little fighter'' was saved. This was a first in France . So the doctors decide to try this treatment on other premature babies, and they
  obtain the same results. This treatment is then established for all premature
  babies in the Pediatric Service dep't in the hospital of Purpan , in Toulouse .
  
  The media would not, of course, dispense this information. But as the
  brother said in his talk, we don't need media publicity, we prefer
  to give a personal witness to touch the hearts of people. That's what was
  done in this case, especially to the medical personnel who witnessed
  personally the procedure and the devotion of the H.L.C., and did
  not hesitate to say: " And we say that Jehovah's witnesses don't give
  medical treatment to their children'', as well as the parents of other
  premature babies that have benefited and had their lives saved
  because of the treatment proposed by the HLC, who made
  themselves available to discuss with the brothers and give further explanations and details.
  
  Don't you
  think that a very great witness to Jehovah has been given
  on
  this occasion?
  
  Please do not hesitate to
  relate this beautiful experience to all the
  brothers
  and sisters in your vicinity. This is a situation that
  can
  serve us well in the preaching work to refute
  those who contradict
  about blood
  transfusions.