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  France event ??

  by lancelink in

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  this message was emailed to me today,,.

  historic event in france!!!!!!.

  we would like to share with you an experience related by .

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  lancelink

  This message was emailed to me today ,, Historic EVENT IN FRANCE!!!!!! We would like to share with you an experience related by brother Baudril, from the Hospital Liaison Committee, during a recent circuit assembly in Marseilles. Margo, a premature baby, born at 30 weeks gestation, weighing only 1.2 kg (2.65 lbs) with a very low blood count, the doctors feel it important to administer a blood transfusion. The parents, Jehovah's Witnesses,contact the H.L.C.. A process is started, faxes are sent, and the brothers propose to the doctors if they would accept to administer erythroproeteine (EPO, synthetic hormones which stimulate the production of red blood cells) for three days. The doctors accept, and the Bethel supplied the product. After 3 days the blood count stabilises. The brothers propose a fourth day of EPO and the count rises. So the treatment is approved and continued. Margo, who was nicknamed, ''Little fighter'' was saved. This was a first in France. So the doctors decide to try this treatment on other premature babies, and they obtain the same results. This treatment is then established for all premature babies in the Pediatric Service dep't in the hospital of Purpan, in Toulouse. The media would not, of course, dispense this information. But as the brother said in his talk, we don't need media publicity, we prefer to give a personal witness to touch the hearts of people. That's what was done in this case, especially to the medical personnel who witnessed personally the procedure and the devotion of the H.L.C., and did not hesitate to say: " And we say that Jehovah's witnesses don't give medical treatment to their children'', as well as the parents of other premature babies that have benefited and had their lives saved because of the treatment proposed by the HLC, who made themselves available to discuss with the brothers and give further explanations and details. Don't you think that a very great witness to Jehovah has been given on this occasion? Please do not hesitate to relate this beautiful experience to all the brothers and sisters in your vicinity. This is a situation that can serve us well in the preaching work to refute those who contradict about blood transfusions.
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  Tedd kennedy statement

  by lancelink in

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  i was three years old when jfk was shot.. hardly remember bobby dying.. yet with all the tedd kennedy stuff on the news this week, i was just thinking about how this family has affected so many people over the years.. and still while reading about ted's life, his problems / triumphs / sorrows and joys, a little comment was printed that really grabbed my attention.. the kennedy's were all catholic, and it seems that ted had a really powerful opinion about religion:.

  " i am an american and catholic, i love my country and treasure my faith, but i do not assume that my conception of patriotism or policy is unvariably correct.

  or that my convictions about religion should command any greater respect than any other faith in this pluralistic society.. i believe that there surely is such a thing as truth, but who among us can claim a monopoly on it ?

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  lancelink

  I was three years old when JFK was shot.

  Hardly remember Bobby dying.

  Yet with all the Tedd kennedy stuff on the news this week, I was just thinking about how this family has affected so many people over the years.

  And still while reading about Ted's life, his problems / triumphs / sorrows and joys, a little comment was printed that really grabbed my attention.

  The Kennedy's were all Catholic, and it seems that Ted had a really powerful opinion about religion:

  " I am an American and Catholic, I love my country and treasure my faith, but I do not assume that my conception of patriotism or policy is unvariably correct. Or that my convictions about religion should command any greater respect than any other faith in this pluralistic society.

  I believe that there surely is such a thing as truth, but who among us can claim a monopoly on it ?

  It made me think about the attitude the witnesses carry around, arrogant and hardnosed, VS openminded, and empathetic
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  PRIVATE PROPERTY! KEEP OUT!

  by highdose in

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  how many times have we all seen that sign in the minstry?

  also " no salesman" , " no harkers" etc.

  in my congo it was the policy to ignore these completly, the poor people who just wanted to be left alone never had a chance.. i on the otherhand used to use it as an exhuse to fast forward on to the next house and finish up the ministry quicker.... what was your experiance?.

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  I was told by the CO back in the late 1970's that we should not offer anything for sale at these doors.

  That way if the police were called, we could not be lumped in with "solicitors"
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  encouraging JW "nighmare" stories

  by lancelink in

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  recently i was thinking back over the years, and thought about the horrible stories the watchtower published hoping that.

  the rank and file would be encouraged, or think of ways to improve their own life.. instead of a heartwarming, or upbuilding story, it was something found in the ultimate gloom story.. the worst i can remember was back in the early 1980's, my oldest son was just born, and in some magazine / book there was a story about a. sister who was being persecuted.. she also had just given birth, and the persons who were doing the persecuting had the mother locked, or tied up and had the baby lay right outside of her reach.. all she had to do was renounce her faith, and the baby would be returned to her.. i don't remember how the story ended, but that just scared the s**t out of my wife and i. no way could i put a religion above the life of my child in that situation.. but i do remember the moral of the story was for us to "build up our spirituality" because things like this will happen soon.. good grief, this was 25 years ago, and it really made a mark on me for years.

  yet i always knew that religion would be #2 in a situation like that.. and for years i felt unworthy because i did not have the correct mindset crafted by the wt society regarding this type of situation.. anyone else have a personal experience like this ?

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  Recently I was thinking back over the years, and thought about the horrible stories the watchtower published hoping that

  the rank and file would be encouraged, or think of ways to improve their own life.

  Instead of a heartwarming, or upbuilding story, it was something found in the ultimate gloom story.

  The worst I can remember was back in the early 1980's, my oldest son was just born, and in some magazine / book there was a story about a

  sister who was being persecuted.

  She also had just given birth, and the persons who were doing the persecuting had the mother locked, or tied up and had the baby lay right outside of her reach.

  All she had to do was renounce her faith, and the baby would be returned to her.

  I don't remember how the story ended, but that just scared the s**t out of my wife and I. No way could I put a religion above the life of my child in that situation.

  But I do remember the moral of the story was for us to "build up our spirituality" because things like this will happen SOON.

  Good grief, this was 25 years ago, and it really made a mark on me for years. Yet I always knew that religion would be #2 in a situation like that.

  And for years I felt unworthy because I did not have the correct mindset crafted by the wt society regarding this type of situation.

  Anyone else have a personal experience like this ??
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  bro. butts from bethel e-mail :

  by lancelink in

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  typical jw email message forwarded to me this afternoon :.

  do not tire out!.

  bro.

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  This was an e-mail sent to me from my Uncle in Missouri Wednesday morning.

  I have no idea where it originated, who the characters are, or what it all means.

  Just wanted to let everyone see something that must be "making the rounds" in JW land.
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  I want to do volunteer work - this is classic

  by heybaby in

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  it has always bothered my how witnesses are discouraged from doing volunteer work because "preaching to them about the truth is the best thing we can do!

  " ok, yeah, whatever.

  it's true that the bible talks about preaching as being important for christians, but that's far from being the only thing that christians are encouraged to do for their fellow humans.

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  Heybaby :

  I really appreciate your viewpoint, and yes you make a great point and your basis is very solid !

  When I began to think of doing volunteer work, i also was discouraged by the witnesses. Yet I just ignored them

  and moved on doing what my heart always wanted,,, working with animals.

  There will be something inside you that really improves and glows when you do something such as volunteering for your OWN cause .

  As Rocky said to Clubber lang "go for it:
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  bro. butts from bethel e-mail :

  by lancelink in

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  typical jw email message forwarded to me this afternoon :.

  do not tire out!.

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  lancelink

  Typical JW email message forwarded to me this afternoon :

  Do Not Tire Out!

  Bro. Sherman Butts

  Patterson Educational Center - Bethel

  The times we're living in are "critical - hard to deal with." Anxiety, depression, anguish, exhaustion, tired out and tired of fighting. All of us have or will feel this way, at some point.

  But the theme for this talk is found at Gal. 6:9 - "So let us not give up in doing what is fine, for in due season we shall reap if we do NOT tire out."

  So it's telling us, don't get so tired that you stop doing what's fine, that you discontinue spiritual things - service, meetings, eating at Jehovah's table. If we keep doing what is fine, we will benefit.

  1 Pet. 5:8 - "Keep your senses, be watchful. Your adversary, the Devil, walks about like a roaring lion seeking to devour someone." Keep your senses, be watchful, don't tire out.

  'Seeks to devour someone' carries the thought that Satan wants to pulverize us, so he can drink us down. He's a terrorist, a monster.

  Knowing that his time is running out, he's increasing the pressure.

  Sometimes its blatant, frontal persecution. Other times it's more subtle. Satan knows that we go thru emotional ups & downs, so he waits ... and waits ... and waits, until we're at our lowest point & then he pounces on us, hoping to destroy us spiritually.

  Walking the spiritual life is the very best way of life, but it's not the easiest. There are holes on the path to life. We will stumble, we will fall, we will err. But it's about how we respond.

  The Devil hopes we'll fall into a hole so deep, that we'll hit such an emotional low that we'll get complacent & then he comes down to pounce on us, pulverize us.

  We feel compressed, repressed, depressed, stepped over, stepped on, etc. How do we not tire out? James 1:2 - "Consider it all joy, my brothers , when you meet with various trials."

  "Various" in Greek; piokilos ; many tints, many tinted, or many colors.

  So Satan has an assortment or array of colors to make us worn out. Ask yourself, what is he using against you? Is it the black of death? The gray of depression? The green of envy? The red of rage?

  1 Pet. 4:10 - "In proportion as each one has r eceived a gift, use it in ministering to one another as fine stewards of God's undeserved kindness expressed in various ways."

  Jehovah God has an undeserved kindness to match every trial from Satan.

  There's no problem, circumstance, situation, or pressure that can come up, that Jehovah can't match! Consider examples.

  1) Resentment - Psalm 6: 6, 8, 9 - "I have grown weary with my sighing, all night long make my couch swim; with my tears make my divan overflow. Get away from me, practicers of what is hurtful. Jehovah will hear my weeping and request for favor ..."

  David was saying that someone who knew him, someone close to him had hurt him deeply; he cried himself to sleep. Have you ever been crushed that way?

  Vs. 9 tells us he didn't tire out. He was confident Jehovah would hear his request for favor and accept his prayer. will speak thoughtlessly as with the stabs of a sword, which means it's not just superficial but the cut & hurt go deep.

  And what happens after we've cried about it and all our tears dry up? Then resentment starts to set in, we get upset. We may see them at the meeting and ignore them. We want them to hurt like we hurt. For some, it even causes them to stop going to the meetings. What should we do?

  Col 3:13 - "Continue putting up with one another and forgiving one another freely if anyone has a cause for complaint against another. Even as Jehovah freely forgave you, so do you also."

  Granting forgiveness in no way condones the wrong. It just means that you are relinquishing the burden of resentment. You're saying you will no longer carry the resentment that came from their hurtful action.

  If you have an 8oz cup full of water, how long can you hold it? 5 min? 1 hr? A whole day? If you tried to hold it indefinitely, you would eventually suffer long-term internal damage. Because it's not about how heavy the cup is, it's about how long you hold it.

  Same is true with forgiveness. It's not about the wrong tha t was done to you, it's about how long you'll hold it. Sometimes you can see the pain in people's faces when they're holding resentment. All they have to do is put it down and let it go. If we want to be theocratic, spiritually productive people, we have to=2 0put it down, and just let it go.

  2) Persecution - from the governments, from our families, from the economy, etc.

  Example of two young brothers who were beaten and pressured to pray (in school). The young boy refused and told the headmaster, that he could not be a Witness at home, but then be someone else at school. Another brother was tortured and vomited blood for 90 days, but he kept his integrity and prayed that the other brothers being held would

  not surrender, but stay loyal.

  One sister battled cancer for 17 years but never quit going to meetings. Another young brother faces pressure from young ladies everyday to commit immorality - but he remains clean. Another couple used to be loved by their family and friends when they were in the world, but once they learned the truth - they were shunned.

  What persecutions have we endured for the sake of the kingdom? What helps us in all these situations?

  Philippians 2: 5, 8 - "Keep this=2 0mental attitude that was also in Christ Jesus. More than that, when he found himself in fashion as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient as far as death, yes, death on a torture stake."

  Jesus had humility and he was obedient. It takes humility to endure mistreatment; realizing that you can't control or undo what's happening to you. It's like a sailboat in stormy waters - you can't control the winds, but you can adjust your sail.

  Heartfelt prayer is also important.

  Rom. 8: 31, 37 - "What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who will be against us? To the contrary, in all these things we are coming off completely victorious through him that loved us."

  Sometimes after a hard rain, you'll see flowers that are completely bent over. Normally, when it's about to rain, you'll see humans and animals leave and take cover. ut flowers can't uproot themselves and run for cover! They have to stay there and take it. The flowers may be bent, but they're not broken. Eventually, they stand up again.

  Likewise, when persecution comes, we can't always get away from it, we can't run and take cover. After it passes, we may fe el exhausted, and bent. But as long as we're strongly rooted, Jehovah will help us to stand up again.

  3) Feelings of unworthiness - possibly because of some sin we've committed in the past, or something someone said that makes you feel worthless; or maybe as a result of your own thoughts.

  The brothers called on one sister in their hall, and they visited with her and the kids. She had an infectious laugh, it made others laugh. But after she sent the kids to the room to play, she told the brothers she just wanted to die. She didn't feel like she was worth the life she had.

  Sometimes the thought of jumping off the 10th floor brought a smile to her face.

  What do you say to someone like that??

  Ps. 34:18 - "Jehovah is near to those that are broken at heart; and those who are crushed in spirit he saves." To add texture to this verse, also read Ps. 147:3 - "He is healing the brokenhearted ones, and is binding up their painful spots."

  As a kid, I always thought I was bigger than I really was (You chuckled, cuz I'm kinda small. Do not let the suit fool you!) Anyway, I used to think I was bigger than I actually was until one day I was looking thru some photos and made a joke about the little , skinny kid in the picture - only to find out that it was me!

  Lesson?

  Sometimes, what you see is not what the picture really says.

  The 'picture' says that Jehovah, the Most High Sovereign of the Universe is concerned about yo u. He cares. He wants to patch you up; heal you; bind up your painful spots.

  1 John 4:1 - "Do not believe every inspired expression, but test it to see whether they originate with God." So the othe r application could be, when we feel worthless because of what others say or because of our own thoughts - we have to test out those expressions to see if they originate with God - is that what the picture really says?

  When testing the wheel on a grinding machine, you tap the wheel and it's supposed to make a loud ringing sound. If it doesn't and it's dull, then you know it's no good and you need to replace, or it could be dangerous. It's called the ring test.

  So when we face negative feelings and thoughts â € “ do the ring test. Remember that Jehovah loves us.

  Older ones say they can't give what they used to, so they don't have value. But the picture says that Jehovah values their gray hair and appreciates everyone who offers whole- souled service.

  Youths are pulled in every direction - parents, friends, teachers, etc. Their heart tells them to do spiritual things, but their emotions may say otherwise. Some don't feel that they have a real place in the congregation. So young ones feel negative at times too. How can we help them?

  Ps. 127:3 - "Look! Sons are an inheritance from Jehovah; the fruitage of the belly is a rich reward." An inheritance is something of value, left behind to enhance the life of someone else. That's how Jehovah feels about them. A rich reward!!!

  The goal for youth should be, to be an answer for Jehovah to Satan's taunts - not the excuse Satan uses in his rebellion. If you can make decisions that will bring tears to your mother's eyes, and break her heart - if you can live with that, then that's between you and Jehovah. But the goal should be to be 'vessels for an honorable use'.

  We feel exhausted, tired, overwhelmed, overheated ...but we can't give up - we've come too far. We're so close to the finish line!

  Heb. 12:1 - "Put off every weight and run with endurance." It's a race. So, we're gonna get tired, feel overheated, feel the pains of running. Just expect it.

  In one marathon run in NY, a runner who was in the lead stumbled due to exhaustion and lost the l ead . He ended up crawling across the finish line. One who interviewed him expressed lament that he'd lost the lead, and the runner said, "Don't feel sorry for me! I wasn't running the race just to win, my goal was to finish - and I did finish!"

  Likewise for us - it's a race, not a beauty contest! We're not worried about how good we look as we're running - our goal is just to finish the race.

  When you prep for a race, there are things that you expect and prepare for - cramps, sweat, to be bumped by other runners, etc. But what if you saw someone running a marathon, and then he20suddenly stopped, only 2 miles in. You ask him why he stopped running and he says, "There was something starting to happen on my forehead

  ... I felt sweat running down, so I stopped. I signed up to run, but I didn't sign up for sweating!" Or he says, "I got bumped by another runner ... I said I would run, but I didn't plan to get bumped." You'd say, that's ABSURD!

  So it is with us. We expect to sweat, feel the pain, get bumped, etc. WE DON'T STOP RUNNING. We don't tire out, we keep doing what is fine.

  Is .. 40:28-31 - "Jehovah, a God to time indefinite, does not tire out or grow weary. He's giving to the tired one power ... boys will both tire out and grow weary, without fail stumble, but those hoping in Jehovah will regain power. They'll mount up like eagles; walk and not tire out."

  That's what Jehovah gives us - that His " piokilos ." When we get tired of flapping our wings, Jehovah says he'll make us soar like eagles!

  So what's our resolve? Gal 6:9 - "Keep doing what is fine, for we shall reap if we don't tire out."

  Remember Paganini ... the famous violinist who was playing a concert where 3 of his strings broke, and he was down to only one. To the crowds' amazement, he continued to play on only one string!

  So it is with us - we do not stop playing until Jehovah says the song is over!

  We don't harbor resentment - we forgive.

  We maintain the mind of Christ - humility and obedience.

  When storms come, we're like flowers - bent but not broken.

  Youths - become the Answer for Jehovah, not the excuse.

  When we feel worthless, we listen to what the picture really says.

  We prep for the pains of the race, and we DO NOT TIRE OUT!

  We don't expect it to be easy, we know we will sweat, cramp up, feel weak, but we do NOT Give UP - we rely on Jehovah & we soar like eagles & we make it to the finish line! YES! BE there!!!! Let's ALL make it to the Finish Line!
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  The Grieving Process after Leaving the Cult

  by cantleave in

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  i really want my wife to see that we have spent our wholes lives in a lie, a lie promoted by mind controlling cult, but i have a problem and this is it........ my wife was extremely close to her grandmother, she lived with her in her teens and loved her to bits.

  when her grandmother died, 5 years ago, my wife was devestated, the only thing that allowed her to combat the grief was the hope of the ressurection, being able to see her grandmother again in the new system.. it is in my opinion, this hope that keeps her going in the "truth".

  if the she leaves the truth i am sure, that like me she will not fall back on any other religion, she will probably become more humanist and agnostic if not atheist.. this realisation will mean that she will never see her grandmother again.

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  I am currently going thru this.

  My Mother died in Sept. of 2008, and I DA'd myself in October.

  (The lack of love shown in this religion really pushed me over the edge)

  I find myself looking at God in a whole new light, and the teachings I followed for the past 30 years (as a jw) are just crumbling down.

  Yes, there is grieving, friends / relationships / and memories are a hard wall to break thru, but time really is a friend in this.

  Every month I have grown spiritually without the wtbts monkey on my shoulder.

  I'm sorry if I kind of sidetracked the thread, but in all honesty, life does get better, it's just really hard at first when your past religious focus disappears, and you have to "reinvent" yourself.
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  terrorist cells in the KH (jw e-mail)

  by lancelink in

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  "terrorist cells in the kingdom hall".

  latest news reports are that five terrorist cell groups have been operating .

  in many of our halls.

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  "TERRORIST CELLS in the Kingdom Hall"
  
  
  Latest news reports are that five terrorist cell groups have been operating 
  in many of our Halls. They have been identified as Bin Sleepin, Bin Arguin, 
  Bin Fightin, Bin Complainin, and Bin Missin. Their leader, Osama Bin Satan, 
  trained these groups to destroy the congregation. The plan is to come into 
  the Hall disguised as Christians and to work from within to discourage, 
  disrupt, and destroy. However, there have also been reports of a sixth 
  group. A tiny cell known by the name Bin Prayin. It is actually the only 
  effective counter terrorism force in the Hall. Unlike other terrorist 
  cells, the Bin Prayin team does not blend in with whoever and whatever comes 
  along. Bin Prayin does whatever is needed to uplift and encourage the 
  congregation. We have notices that the Bin Prayin cell group has different 
  characteristics than the others. They have Bin Watchin, Bin Waitin, and Bin 
  Longin for their Master, Jesus Christ.
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  Musikfest anyone in the area go?

  by moomanchu in

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  seen yes with asia last night.. 2 tickets $88.00 $9.00 for musikfest mug .

  we joke that to do anything anymore it's a hundred bucks.. http://www.musikfest.org/.

  goin one more time.. place is a madhouse lol..

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  I'm a fisherman and thought it said "muskiefest"

  i need to get some new glasses.