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  AUSTRALIA: Jehovah's Witness Malcolm Lee guilty of raping 80-year-old-woman

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  friday 16, december 2016. abc news: malcolm lee, 56, has been sentenced to three years, nine months jail for the attack on the woman, 80, at her home near lakes entrance in march.

  during a home massage, organised as a gift by the victim's daughter, lee touched, kissed and digitally raped the woman.

  he claimed he believed at the time it was consensual and she was enjoying it.

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  there are things about this that are wrong on so many levels, it leaves a strange feeling inside of me
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  Im Going To Approach A Witnessing Cart Today

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the city in which i work is flooded with those witnessing carts.

  today im going to approach one of them and pretend i dont know what they believe.

  gonna try and record it if i can.

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  good work PE, thats the general tone I try to use when I speak with them, the cart in my local town centre isnt out much at all these days, not that they will speak to me other than just basic pleasantries
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  Despite their false predictions aren't the JWs right? Won't the world eventually end & Paradise come?

  by deegee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  aren't there christian denominations who do not make false end of the world predictions but who nevertheless believe that the world will eventually end and paradise (whether in heaven or on earth) will come?.

  it seems the watchtower was just jumping the gun when they made false end of the world predictions but they are nevertheless the right: the world will eventually end and paradise will come..

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  name me one single thing they've got right?
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  Crisis of Conscience: December 12, 2015 - 50 weeks later

  by Jehalapeno in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on december 12, 2015 this statement was made by the copyright holder:.

  i am presently considering three different routes to publishing crisis of conscience.

  i hope to make a decision within days and plan to publish within weeks.. it has now been 50 weeks since that statement.. has the book been published yet?

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  I think we all know another 50 weeks could pass and there will still be no change, pathetic.
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  Is the watchtower preparing the rank and file here?

  by Thisismein1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/28736-that-most-beautiful-of-2015-videos-is-now-live/.

  above is a link (if you can stomach it) from jwtalk.

  have a look at the comments.

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  jookbeard

  I think something like this could be in the pipeline, how long can they keep the charade up? they are haemorrhaging members, every single so called prophecy they've predicted has failed, how long can they flog their dead horse? Those bunker vids, the resurrection on the beach seem a long way away now
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  Question for those that have been Disfellowshiped for apostasy VS succesfully fading

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are quite a few here who have been disfellowshipped for apostasy.. then there are those that have successfully faded.. why the different outcome?

  are the ones that got df more out spoken?

  or does the discrepancy lie with the elders?.

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  jookbeard

  my circumstances were a mixture of the two, I read CoC etc and was semi fading, made the mistake of voicing my views etc, invited to a JC but was not DF'ed I said I was sorry for stumbling others, would study more blah blah blah, I continued to fade though as my mind was made up 100% but I was keeping my thoughts to myself generally,about one year in I was trapped by a speaker phone conversation by the PO and answered the "loyalty" questions about the ORG that would end up getting me DA'ed in my absence I believe, I was never informed of any announcement and had no clue whatsoever about my status as a jw, it meant little in reality, shortly after I moved away, got divorced and got on with my life, if I could turn back the clock I would have been a bit more cautious when answering those questions from the PO, it caused a lot of upheaval but I got over it. A properly planned "fade" is far different, one has to be very careful who you speak to about doctrinal matters if you speak to anyone at all.
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  Knock knock."Who's there? Two elders!!

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so today was a cold and snowy day in my neck of the woods and the wife and i were just chilling around the house waiting to go to the church tonight for a candle lighting service when lo and behold we get a knock on the door.

  yup, 2 elders from my old hall.

  i figured they were fishing for some time so i invited them in and gave them some coffee and we talked about everything that happened and why we walk away from the jw's.

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  there is no one single shred of biblical evidence that the ransom promised a resurrection of hundreds of billions to a paradise earth after The Great T and at the end of the 1000 years,one one single shred.
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  Preaching work already done - not for now

  by stockholm_Syndrome in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  compare what happened during the apostolic period -col 1:23:provided, of course, that you continue in the faith, established on the foundation and steadfast, not being shifted away from the hope of that good news that you heard and that was preached in all creation under heaven.+ of this good news i, paul, became a minister.rom 16:26but has now been made manifest* and has been made known through the prophetic scriptures among all the nations according to the command of the everlasting god to promote obedience by faith;who was the preaching commission, or coming forward as a witness given to?

  remembering context, audience and purpose….john 15:27;and you, in turn, are to bear witness,+ because you have been with me from the beginning.hmmm i personally wasn't with jesus from the beginning ---were you ?matt 11:1when jesus had finished giving instructions to his 12 disciples, he set out from there to teach and preach in their cities.i wasn't one of his original 12 disciples ---where you?matthew 28:16-20however, the 11 disciples went to galʹi·lee to the mountain where jesus had arranged for them to meet.

  17 when they saw him, they did obeisance, but some doubted.18 jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “all authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.

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  s_s , their message is irrelevant, pointless,a venomous poison,and so is the bibles,it holds no point to our lives whatsoever, but our experiences are not of course not, a huge percentage of us can pull their doctrinal belief system apart in a few mere moments, but forums like this offer far far more than trying to decipher pointless biblical so called prophecy, I steer anyone away from even reading the bible or worshipping the god of it.
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  Preaching work already done - not for now

  by stockholm_Syndrome in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  compare what happened during the apostolic period -col 1:23:provided, of course, that you continue in the faith, established on the foundation and steadfast, not being shifted away from the hope of that good news that you heard and that was preached in all creation under heaven.+ of this good news i, paul, became a minister.rom 16:26but has now been made manifest* and has been made known through the prophetic scriptures among all the nations according to the command of the everlasting god to promote obedience by faith;who was the preaching commission, or coming forward as a witness given to?

  remembering context, audience and purpose….john 15:27;and you, in turn, are to bear witness,+ because you have been with me from the beginning.hmmm i personally wasn't with jesus from the beginning ---were you ?matt 11:1when jesus had finished giving instructions to his 12 disciples, he set out from there to teach and preach in their cities.i wasn't one of his original 12 disciples ---where you?matthew 28:16-20however, the 11 disciples went to galʹi·lee to the mountain where jesus had arranged for them to meet.

  17 when they saw him, they did obeisance, but some doubted.18 jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “all authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.

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  100% Schnell, in the grand scheme of things it holds zero relevance to any one past/present or the future, the message of doomsday cults is really very tiring and really who cares?
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  JW Policy Regarding "Marking" From The Nov 2016 WT

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws will deny that local needs parts are often just a way to mark those in the congregation who are deemed to be "bad association" or who don't fall in line with the elders viewpoints.

  now, for the first time in a long time the wt discusses their marking policy and how it works in the nov study wt:.

  recall paul’s counsel regarding disorderly ones in the congregation.

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  jookbeard

  I view my marking as a badge of honour, its all quite stupid though as the markee is never formally informed he is marked, well at least I was'nt