definitely your alarm bells should be ringing, the elder is clearly lying,nothing positive will come out of this visit, there will be loaded questions about your loyalty to the Borg, they must have some suspicions about you and do you know this CO?, one of very last meetings I ever attended was a CO visit shortly after my JC hearing, he cornered me and bombarded my with "loyalty to the organisation" questions, a few months down the line my wife arranged a meeting with the new CO supposedly because he wanted to "encourage" me, I declined, I echo the advice here and inform the "good guy elder" you will contact him if you need any meet ups/encouraging/shepherding call etc, tell him not to call/email/text as well.
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Elder wants to stop by with the CO for a visit .
by NikL inso i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
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Do any of the governing body of JWs exercise their conscience?
by Half banana inthe members of the governing body, by being at the reins of a large corporation, must be confronted with situations which force them to think about the validity of their doctrines.. the australian royal commission hearing must have highlighted for the gb, especially jackson, the rational inconsistency of using an iron age dictum of "two witnesses" in a world which has moved beyond such rough justice.
today we have a scientific approach, we examine forensically, we have psychologists who can tell us about individual's minds and behaviour.
today, children's voices are not ignored.. the first and last resort of jws and their leaders is the doctrine of the "inerrancy of the bible".
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jookbeard
there have been rumours about Samuel Herd not believing a word of it any more, but would he resign at his age? not a chance, the latest rumour I've just been reading is that Lett could be forced out, not because of his religious standpoint more than likely the utter embarrassment he causes them, will we see another Ray Franz? I dont see it, these latest group of GB members carry less power now than they ever have had since the formation of the big group in the early 1970's
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Lunch today with.. JW step father....
by raven init has been a while since i've posted, i think its because i have finally gotten some peace and quiet as far as harassment from the jw elders.. my step father, the one who reported me to the elder police for a sinful act invited me to lunch today.. it has been almost a year since the incident, we have talked here and there, it has been just casual though.
he says he is in town for work and asked if i would like to meet up for lunch, i couldn't think of any excuses so i agreed.. i hope it goes well, hope that we don't go into the jw nonsense.
hope he doesn't bring elders with him, am i paranoid or what?
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look forward to the report back
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Daily text for 12-7-2016 Gods promises "Dynamic"?
by NikL inwife read me the daily text this morning out of the blue this morning and a couple of sentences stuck out in my head.. all of jehovah’s promises are dynamic, not static, because he is constantly working toward their fulfillment.
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46:10; 55:11) once a person realizes this about jehovah’s word, what he reads in the bible can exert a powerful force in his life.. .
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making excuses for the creator of the universe! pathetic !
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"You Wouldn't Believe How Many Have Crawled Back To The Meetings"
by minimus inthat's a comment i heard from an elder i haven't seen in over a decade, yesterday.
i mentioned it all on my other thread.
i responded that i knew of no one that was crawling back to the meetings and gave him an incredulous hearty chuckle.
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jookbeard
interesting comment about 9/11,did it make much difference to many coming back? it made zero difference to me
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"You Wouldn't Believe How Many Have Crawled Back To The Meetings"
by minimus inthat's a comment i heard from an elder i haven't seen in over a decade, yesterday.
i mentioned it all on my other thread.
i responded that i knew of no one that was crawling back to the meetings and gave him an incredulous hearty chuckle.
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jookbeard
so deluded aren't they? from the morons manning the apathy carts claiming the Joe Public love to take the magazines to read on the way to work to yet another example of utter lunacy, one would think the KH's are bursting at the seams, when he really knows that you know they are not.
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Have any ex-jws considered joining the Bible Students?
by Rainbow_Troll intheir fundamental beliefs are much like jehovah's witnesses sans the paranoia, authoritarianism, stifling rules, and end-times enthusiasm.
you don't even have to become a bible student to be saved, you could be an idol worshipping heathen and still get resurrected in the milenium.
if i still believed in the divine inspiration of the scriptures, i would be a bible student.
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no idea SBF, I believe he used to travel to Ealing every Sunday for their meeting
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Have any ex-jws considered joining the Bible Students?
by Rainbow_Troll intheir fundamental beliefs are much like jehovah's witnesses sans the paranoia, authoritarianism, stifling rules, and end-times enthusiasm.
you don't even have to become a bible student to be saved, you could be an idol worshipping heathen and still get resurrected in the milenium.
if i still believed in the divine inspiration of the scriptures, i would be a bible student.
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I think the boredom of studying Russel's crap week after week would make me lose the will! , the exjw friend of mine who helped me leaving all those years back was heavily into it and was a member Of The Layman's Home Missionary Movement, he is now a Mormon! SBF I believe there are two LHMM congregations in London I think the Dawn Movement have a little more plus one in Manchester, plus they have an annual convention
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Meeting Attendance levels
by freddo ini attended a sunday meeting today after missing a couple due to a bout of chronic apathy.
out of 74 publishers we had a grand total of 33. wonderful.
for those that attend, how are you finding the numbers?.
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I always winder about my old cong when I was there I believe we had about 80 publishers, I hear its far lower than that now, dont know the exact figure though
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Around 100 billion people have died
by Funchback inaccording to some, the earth may have 10 billion people living on it by the end of this century.
there is genuine concern about space and resources.. imagine, then, 100 billion people being resurrected to live on earth.
some jws will argue that not everyone will be resurrected to earth, including 144,000. imagine 50 billion then, assuming that half of the people who ever lived did something so horrific that they aren't deemed worthy to be resurrected.. jws who are lurking and reading this: where are they going to live?
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my research has led me to believe that there are far more than that, how about 500 billion? the notion of that figure alone and let alone the fantasy of just the resurrection makes the mind boggle. These so called new scrolls dont take into account that the resurrection is to take place on Earth, I always thought about population of other earth like planets but that is even more ridiculous, they are stuck with the problem of the sustainability of how the earth will cope with these hundreds of billions!