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  Lunch today with.. JW step father....

  by raven in

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  it has been a while since i've posted, i think its because i have finally gotten some peace and quiet as far as harassment from the jw elders.. my step father, the one who reported me to the elder police for a sinful act invited me to lunch today.. it has been almost a year since the incident, we have talked here and there, it has been just casual though.

  he says he is in town for work and asked if i would like to meet up for lunch, i couldn't think of any excuses so i agreed.. i hope it goes well, hope that we don't go into the jw nonsense.

  hope he doesn't bring elders with him, am i paranoid or what?

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  look forward to the report back
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  Daily text for 12-7-2016 Gods promises "Dynamic"?

  by NikL in

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  wife read me the daily text this morning out of the blue this morning and a couple of sentences stuck out in my head.. all of jehovah’s promises are dynamic, not static, because he is constantly working toward their fulfillment.

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  46:10; 55:11) once a person realizes this about jehovah’s word, what he reads in the bible can exert a powerful force in his life.. .

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  making excuses for the creator of the universe! pathetic !
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  "You Wouldn't Believe How Many Have Crawled Back To The Meetings"

  by minimus in

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  that's a comment i heard from an elder i haven't seen in over a decade, yesterday.

  i mentioned it all on my other thread.

  i responded that i knew of no one that was crawling back to the meetings and gave him an incredulous hearty chuckle.

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  interesting comment about 9/11,did it make much difference to many coming back? it made zero difference to me
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  "You Wouldn't Believe How Many Have Crawled Back To The Meetings"

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  that's a comment i heard from an elder i haven't seen in over a decade, yesterday.

  i mentioned it all on my other thread.

  i responded that i knew of no one that was crawling back to the meetings and gave him an incredulous hearty chuckle.

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  so deluded aren't they? from the morons manning the apathy carts claiming the Joe Public love to take the magazines to read on the way to work to yet another example of utter lunacy, one would think the KH's are bursting at the seams, when he really knows that you know they are not.
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  Have any ex-jws considered joining the Bible Students?

  by Rainbow_Troll in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  their fundamental beliefs are much like jehovah's witnesses sans the paranoia, authoritarianism, stifling rules, and end-times enthusiasm.

  you don't even have to become a bible student to be saved, you could be an idol worshipping heathen and still get resurrected in the milenium.

  if i still believed in the divine inspiration of the scriptures, i would be a bible student.

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  no idea SBF, I believe he used to travel to Ealing every Sunday for their meeting
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  Have any ex-jws considered joining the Bible Students?

  by Rainbow_Troll in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  their fundamental beliefs are much like jehovah's witnesses sans the paranoia, authoritarianism, stifling rules, and end-times enthusiasm.

  you don't even have to become a bible student to be saved, you could be an idol worshipping heathen and still get resurrected in the milenium.

  if i still believed in the divine inspiration of the scriptures, i would be a bible student.

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  I think the boredom of studying Russel's crap week after week would make me lose the will! , the exjw friend of mine who helped me leaving all those years back was heavily into it and was a member Of The Layman's Home Missionary Movement, he is now a Mormon! SBF I believe there are two LHMM congregations in London I think the Dawn Movement have a little more plus one in Manchester, plus they have an annual convention
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  Meeting Attendance levels

  by freddo in

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  i attended a sunday meeting today after missing a couple due to a bout of chronic apathy.

  out of 74 publishers we had a grand total of 33. wonderful.

  for those that attend, how are you finding the numbers?.

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  I always winder about my old cong when I was there I believe we had about 80 publishers, I hear its far lower than that now, dont know the exact figure though
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  Around 100 billion people have died

  by Funchback in

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  according to some, the earth may have 10 billion people living on it by the end of this century.

  there is genuine concern about space and resources.. imagine, then, 100 billion people being resurrected to live on earth.

  some jws will argue that not everyone will be resurrected to earth, including 144,000. imagine 50 billion then, assuming that half of the people who ever lived did something so horrific that they aren't deemed worthy to be resurrected.. jws who are lurking and reading this: where are they going to live?

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  my research has led me to believe that there are far more than that, how about 500 billion? the notion of that figure alone and let alone the fantasy of just the resurrection makes the mind boggle. These so called new scrolls dont take into account that the resurrection is to take place on Earth, I always thought about population of other earth like planets but that is even more ridiculous, they are stuck with the problem of the sustainability of how the earth will cope with these hundreds of billions!
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  Was the ransom premature? Shouldn't the effects of Adamic sin have been reversed at the time of Jesus' death?

  by deegee in

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  if the ransom was paid at the time of jesus' death (mark 15:45, matthew 20:28, 1 timothy 2:6, hebrews 2:9), then why weren't the effects of adamic sin (sickness & death) reversed at that time?.

  it seems to me that either:- the payment of the ransom was premature.

  - god was not satisfied with the payment of the ransom; it was not sufficient to make up for adam's & eve's so-called "sin".hasn't god extracted enough from mankind as payment for adam's & eve's "sin" given the billions of persons who have lived and died?.

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  a very poignant question indeed and one that is so unsatisfactorily still unanswered, Theist Christians will still claim the hopeless old chestnut that there is still a sovereignty issue being solved, so billions of mankind still have to suffer because of a dick waving competition between god and the devil? laughable
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  A Brother refusing to pray?

  by HereIgo in

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  i remember there was a brother in my congregation while i was in who would comment at all meetings but if asked to pray at a meeting or meeting for service he would always politely refuse.

  i always found it odd, i assumed as a young bro, that a bro was kind of obligated to pray if asked.

  knowing what i know now, it could have been a guilty conscience or maybe he just wanted to be lowkey.

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  I used to hate praying at the KH/book study etc, I bet my prayers sounded crap also, we had a family friend who was a jw for many years but never made the grade, he used to swear like a docker a truley foul mouthed man, he used to love to pray at the meetings though, these uber humble spiritual prays used to ooze from him, I used to laugh to myself quietly, little would the cong have known that particular afternoon I was working with him and he was repeatedly using the F and C word!