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i hope that the governing body will see this.
it is too bad it has to be on an anonymous forum.
I love this ... well done you. And this made me chuckle....
~cilp~ the organization has sent a Cease and Desist to the anonymous ... ~clip~
So, it now means we can (legitimately) send a "Cease and Desist" notice to all congregations in an attempt to stop them calling and leaving rubbish literature!
this is an exerpt from the aug. 15, 2011 wt p.18:.
why is down-sizing an "exciting development"?
amazing how they spin it..
this is an exerpt from the aug. 15, 2011 wt p.18:.
why is down-sizing an "exciting development"?
amazing how they spin it..
it starts in less than 5 mins.... has everybody got their fave country's flag and got their wine/beer and european nibblies ready?.
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Grrrr - IE9 strikes again!
Umm - watching it? Yes ... Listening to Graham Norton? No!
Took the TV visuals with Radio 2's Ken Bruce - much improved ... now how to sort out the second latency ... :(
Liked Sweden's drums!
it starts in less than 5 mins.... has everybody got their fave country's flag and got their wine/beer and european nibblies ready?.
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the article that caught my eye as i was thumbing through it was on page 18 entitled "a peaceable people defend their good name".
this was all about the issues being addresssed in russia and how the j.w.
's were being oppressed/repressed.. but if you look in the box to the left under "a note to the citizens of russia", you will see that they quote the scripture in luke 12:2 "there is nothing carefully concealed that will not be revealed, and secret that will not become known.".
40 million is still 40 million (4,000 million would be 4 billion - although it could be argued that 4 billion is 4,000,000 million)
Doesn't alter the fact they are still being massively hypocritical - grrr!
Cambridgesire - North western part where ther ain't no hills but you get a lot of sky for your money.
july 2011 awake (p.5) says: the ruler of this world.
the bible states: the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.
(john 12:31; 1 john 5:19) that wicked one is satan the devil, a powerful spirit creature who is described as the ruler of the authority of the air.
and so he continues to exercise authority over the "kingdom of the world" since he has never surrendered
Once again you open your mouth and we are supplied with a torrent of drivvle! Just because you never let get go of something (in this case authority) which has been taken from you it doesn't mean, and cannot mean, you still have it! When you put forward an analogy and self declare that it falls down because of this or that I have to shut down because you've only created a 'strawman' - not a reasoned response.
It beggars the imagination how JWs expect everybody to jump through hoops and circles to pertpetuate the idea of christianity as a complex thing and needs complex thinking. It's the magician's illusion - create a complex side-show and you'll miss the simple stuff. If the 'foolish and ignoble' were chosen in favour of the educated then why is so much of the doctrine ridiculously convoluted and complex.
One other point, you simply can't have a remnant at the beginning of something... it can ONLY be at the end of a thing! There was no remnant in 33CE - the Remnant, as you call it, could only occur in 1914/1918/1919/1933/1935 and that assumes the JWs are correct as much of it is speculative chronology combined with twisted, warped self-promoting reasoning.
If we have this superior rule taking place within the organization then we should expect there to exist a Spiritual Paradise... that presupposes all are safe within this Kingdom rule. If that is the case, why is there so much harm and injustice within it's confines? If you deny there is harm then I should suggest you interview those who have suffered at it's hands. This is not a strawman argument - it is evidence as the to existence of the whole establishment of the Rigtheous Estate - one which pertains to a Spiritual Paradise; one that JWs say exist because of the King's Authourity having been given to him.
i was thinking about what the elders are trained to do versus what i personally would do if a minor confided in me that someone was molesting him/her.
i'm not sure what the ethically correct first response should be.
my first thought is to contact some kind of law enforcement that specializes in investigating situations like this with people experienced in getting to the truth of the matter.
You don't half talk some rot eggnog! You haven't even a notion of the overall integrated belief system of JWs. You can't just go around and pick bits that you need to appease your overinflated ego.
Since, as you mentioned, God is not intervening in such matters today, the protection of children is in the hands of every caring adult. Jehovah is big enough to take care of himself and his own name. Children are not.
Aren't you forgetting that JWs are constantly being taught they are living in the Spiritual Paradise mentioned in Isaiah and that Paradise has been created by God himself? Isn't it a basic Christian precept that Christians have an obligation to 'look after widows and orphans ..."? This includes the published inference that includes the peacable physical nature of all who live in that so-called Spritual Paradise. That too means having the right to expect these peacable conditions in the congregation.
Go back and read more eggnog instead of constantly spouting mindless drivvle!
the st. georges parade at the village church.
our son was a flag bearer for his beaver scout group.
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