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Deaf Video : YouTube HOME page

by Red Piller in

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sorry to start another thread on this.

but, the video made it to being featured on the home page.

that is amazing....... .

DT

It's interesting that the Watchtower Society hasn't had this video pulled from Youtube. I have a few ideas of why this might be.

1. They may be waiting for the excitement to die down to try to prevent their actions from feeding into the viral effect. Unfortunately for them, this could take a while for this video.

2. It could be indecision. The Governing Body might be starting to realize that they don't know how to tame the Internet monster. They may be hoping that the problem will go away or the Governing Body might be unable to reach a two thirds majority decision.

3. They might be afraid of making this video more newsworthy. For now, it would be difficult for the mainstream media to cover this story without looking like they are making fun of either a religion or deaf people. However, if the Watchtower Society pulls a video that they put on the Internet in the first place, it could make for an interesting news story.

4. They might be afraid of Anonymous. They probably remember when Scientology kept trying to take down that infamous Tom Cruise video and it just fed into the publicity of the Anonymous operation. This resulted in worldwide protests and a PR disaster that dwarfed the current embarrassment of this video. There was some talk about this when the Watchtower Society was taking down the Sparlock videos, but those couldn't compare to that Tom Cruise video. This deaf masturbation video might have enough viral power to to cause a similar amount of trouble.

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When Are Rude Gestures And Warrior Wizards Acceptable For Jehovah's Witnesses?

by DT in

the watchtower society has been doing a lot of touching of the "unclean thing" lately.

for example, in an effort to warn their members about warriors, wizards and warrior wizards (just in case someone decided to mix the two types of abomination), they made a video about a child playing with a warrior wizard to show why it is wrong to play with warrior wizards or watch videos that contain them.. now they have made videos for the deaf that warn of the dangers of masturbation (and even oral and anal sex) by graphically and enthusiastically stimulating (i guess that should be simulating) the very acts that they are condemning.. is it any wonder that the watchtower society is being accused of sending mixed signals?.

normally, graphically simulating sexual acts would get a witness in trouble.

DT

I apologize for any offense my comments may have caused. It was not my intent to characterize ASL as rude gestures.

I personally find the signs in the context of trying to instill guilt and fear among those watching to be rude and offensive.

I also find the presentation of the video to be inconsistent with the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses. They go to great lengths to condemn things like masturbation and visual depictions of it in videos or books, yet are willing to alter their standards when it involves an opportunity to control a group of people.

There is nothing wrong when using signs for things like masturbation when appropriate. However, neither the message nor the forum for that video is appropriate.

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When Are Rude Gestures And Warrior Wizards Acceptable For Jehovah's Witnesses?

by DT in

the watchtower society has been doing a lot of touching of the "unclean thing" lately.

for example, in an effort to warn their members about warriors, wizards and warrior wizards (just in case someone decided to mix the two types of abomination), they made a video about a child playing with a warrior wizard to show why it is wrong to play with warrior wizards or watch videos that contain them.. now they have made videos for the deaf that warn of the dangers of masturbation (and even oral and anal sex) by graphically and enthusiastically stimulating (i guess that should be simulating) the very acts that they are condemning.. is it any wonder that the watchtower society is being accused of sending mixed signals?.

normally, graphically simulating sexual acts would get a witness in trouble.

DT

Bump

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Watchtower and Anonymous Links, Updates, News, etc.

by DT in

i wanted to consolidate a lot of the information about the attack of anonymous against the watchtower society.

if you disagree with the tactics of anonymous, that's fine.

this information may still be useful as the public is made more aware of the the dangerous policies of the watchtower society.

DT

I thought I would add this link about some of the elders involved in the Candace Conti and Menlo Par scandals being used for assembly parts.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/235231/1/Watchtower-honors-Jehovahs-Witness-Elders-responsible-for-Candice-Conti-and-Menlo-Park-Fiascos

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When Are Rude Gestures And Warrior Wizards Acceptable For Jehovah's Witnesses?

by DT in

the watchtower society has been doing a lot of touching of the "unclean thing" lately.

for example, in an effort to warn their members about warriors, wizards and warrior wizards (just in case someone decided to mix the two types of abomination), they made a video about a child playing with a warrior wizard to show why it is wrong to play with warrior wizards or watch videos that contain them.. now they have made videos for the deaf that warn of the dangers of masturbation (and even oral and anal sex) by graphically and enthusiastically stimulating (i guess that should be simulating) the very acts that they are condemning.. is it any wonder that the watchtower society is being accused of sending mixed signals?.

normally, graphically simulating sexual acts would get a witness in trouble.

DT

The Watchtower Society has been doing a lot of touching of the "unclean thing" lately. For example, in an effort to warn their members about warriors, wizards and warrior wizards (just in case someone decided to mix the two types of abomination), they made a video about a child playing with a warrior wizard to show why it is wrong to play with warrior wizards or watch videos that contain them.

Now they have made videos for the deaf that warn of the dangers of masturbation (and even oral and anal sex) by graphically and enthusiastically stimulating (I guess that should be simulating) the very acts that they are condemning.

Is it any wonder that the Watchtower Society is being accused of sending mixed signals?

Normally, graphically simulating sexual acts would get a Witness in trouble. However, they have made videos doing that and placed them on their official and newly redesigned website. Is it OK because it is done with the intention of discouraging the behavior? Is it also OK to invent fictious "evil" characters like Sparlock the Warrior Wizard and put him in a video that makes him famous and results in his appearance on t-shirts and other merchandise as long as there is some kind of message that warrior wizards are bad. If so, is Ghost Busters an appropriate movie for Christians because the ghosts get busted?

Would masturbation be acceptable if a doctor recommended it to prevent cancer, improve immunity or boost mood?
http://news.menshealth.com/masturbate-every-day/2011/12/29/

Just how much touching of the "unclean thing" can a Jehovah's Witness get away with?

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Interesting series on YouTube by AnonDude2

by Listener in

i came across a series of youtube videos presented by an ex jw and thought the story he has to tell and the videos he presents are amazing.. the young man is only 19 years old, he was baptized at the age of 14. he has made over 150 videos.

many of his initial videos takes the viewer step by step through his judicial committees.

there is over 4 hours of taped video of the proceedings and he provides his own commentary after each 15 minute taping.. ethan was eventually disfellowhipped for three reasons.

DT

Interesting video.

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About Anonymous they are working on things as we speak!

by life is to short in

soldier 77 just posted this about two hours ago but i think his post got lost is the great debate and straw mans that another posters was throwing around.. anyway i hope soldier 77 does not mind if i make a thread from his insight.

soldier 77 "this seems to have missed in the tangent argument going on: http://pastebin.com/3nitctlf.

anonymous are needing some more people on the inside to help.

DT

Here are the comments for the Anonymous Press release. The discussion is ongoing.

http://anonnews.org/press/item/1656/comments/

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Order Conditionally Granting Motion For New Trial As To Punitive Damages Filed in Candace Conti Case

by DNCall in

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DT

Bump. Any more news about this?

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Science rules

by EntirelyPossible in

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/johns_hopkins_researchers_return_blood_cells_to_stem_cell_state.

johns hopkins scientists have developed a reliable method to turn the clock back on blood cells, restoring them to a primitive stem cell state from which they can then develop into any other type of cell in the body.. the work, described in the aug. 8 issue of the journal public library of science (plos), is chapter two in an ongoing effort to efficiently and consistently convert adult blood cells into stem cells that are highly qualified for clinical and research use in place of human embryonic stem cells, says elias zambidis, m.d., ph.d., assistant professor of oncology and pediatrics at the johns hopkins institute for cell engineering and the kimmel cancer center.. taking a cell from an adult and converting it all the way back to the way it was when that person was a 6-day-old embryo creates a completely new biology toward our understanding of how cells age and what happens when things go wrong, as in cancer development, zambidis says.. chapter one, zambidis says, was work described last spring in plos one in which zambidis and colleagues recounted the use of this successful method of safely transforming adult blood cells into heart cells.

in the latest experiments, he and his colleagues now describe methods for coaxing adult blood cells to become so-called induced-pluripotent stem cells (ips) --- adult cells reprogrammed to an embryonic like state, and with unprecedented efficiencies.. zambidis says his team has managed to develop a super efficient, virus-free way to make ips cells, overcoming a persistent difficulty for scientists working with these cells in the laboratory.

DT

Very interesting. This raises all sorts of questions about the JW blood policy. How will they respond to medical treatments that use blood in completely new ways?

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Sparlockgate - the YouTube copyright clampdown continues!

by cedars in

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you may remember some time ago i released a song entitled "sparlock we love you" on youtube.. the song was a parody of the "become jehovah's friend" dvd, and became very popular - with well over 10,000 views last time i checked.. i did consider the possibility that the society would complain on grounds of copyright infringement, because i used some specially-altered versions of images on the dvd, such as the one below.... .

however, i shrugged this off, because i thought even the society wouldn't be as petty as to publically complain about the way the images were used.. nevertheless, they did.

today i got the following email.... dear john cedars,we have disabled the following material as a result of a third-party notification from watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvanias, claiming that this material is infringing:.

DT

It's a shame that a corporation like the Watchtower Society can use DMCA complaints to infringe on the free speech rights of its critics. If someone objects, they will get their name and address and can persecute them even more. Abusing this process could expose them to legal liability if they ever pick on the wrong person. In the meantime, there is the court of public opinion. At least they are being exposed for the hypocritical bullies that they are.