I KNEW it!! John was the ultimate hippie!!
You know....never done the acid, done the shrooms though, and even with just that the idea of a Revelation acid trip makes SOOOOO much sense, lol
revelation 5:9, 10, which speaks of people from all nations being made a kingdom and priests, ruling "over the earth"?
realizing that if the "other sheep" are gentiles, i would therefore need to find some explanation for this scripture.
for me, i find a need to understand what this 144,000 concept means in connection with it all.. well, i spent some time yesterday reading scriptures and pondering it.
I KNEW it!! John was the ultimate hippie!!
You know....never done the acid, done the shrooms though, and even with just that the idea of a Revelation acid trip makes SOOOOO much sense, lol
well....the fiance and i set up the xmas tree last night.
i've been out for seven years now and amazingly this is my first tree.
it's pretty cool actually!
Well actually in an effort to save money we got an artificial one off Craigslist for free, lol. It had lights on it already, but a couple of the rows were out so we added our own lights. And it was too tall for our ceiling so we couldn't use all of it, which is fine by me. The thing is MASSIVE. And then we'll be adding more decorations from a friend of ours who will be coming over for xmas eve and xmas morning. It took forever to figure out this ghetto thing, but it was worth it
today, i was hanging out with my girlfriend and we were bored and cold, so we went over to my mom's kingdom hall just to show her what a cult looks like.
i was demonstrating to her how the witnesses use vague, emotion driven speech to try to conjure up the strong feelings in their members so they could control them easier, but i didn't pick this tiny tidbit up.
we kind of listened to the beat of the kingdom melody and we noticed something very odd.... the kingdom songs' cadences are the same rythmic cadences a hypnotist would use to hypnotize a person..
Does anyone have a link to the post that Darth Frosty referred to??
well....the fiance and i set up the xmas tree last night.
i've been out for seven years now and amazingly this is my first tree.
it's pretty cool actually!
Well....the fiance and I set up the xmas tree last night. I've been out for seven years now and amazingly this is my first tree. It's pretty cool actually! I I wasn't sure how it would be, or if I'd even care at all, but it's really nice having it up and I'm super excited for next week
i'm curious if there's ever been a poll or some kind of jwd census.
how many apostates, active jw's, faded, df'd, da'd are there on the forum?
how about how many who were once jw's but now have moved on to another religion versus those who now have no affiliation?
I'm curious if there's ever been a poll or some kind of JWD census. How many apostates, active JW's, faded, DF'd, DA'd are there on the forum? How about how many who were once JW's but now have moved on to another religion versus those who now have no affiliation? I'd be interested to know the breakdown....
just a short info: my wife is not aware of me being here, and its not the time to tell her yet.. however, i time and again raise questions or even disagreement with some teachings of the wts, and she readily accepts them, but still believes, it is "the truth".
but the other day, she talked about the anointed, the number going up, instead of down, and even saying, that maybe the number 144.000 is not literal after all, but maybe symbolic like everything else in revelation.. i said, i would not be surprised, if "new light" comes sooner or later.. she said, that the term "new light" seems overused,.
i realised my chance, and put this thought deeper, example "generation" teaching, how it went from new, to newer, and back to older teachings etc... .
I remember being 8 years old and when I first heard about this whole "replacement" nonesense even then it felt hoaky.
just a short info: my wife is not aware of me being here, and its not the time to tell her yet.. however, i time and again raise questions or even disagreement with some teachings of the wts, and she readily accepts them, but still believes, it is "the truth".
but the other day, she talked about the anointed, the number going up, instead of down, and even saying, that maybe the number 144.000 is not literal after all, but maybe symbolic like everything else in revelation.. i said, i would not be surprised, if "new light" comes sooner or later.. she said, that the term "new light" seems overused,.
i realised my chance, and put this thought deeper, example "generation" teaching, how it went from new, to newer, and back to older teachings etc... .
Wait, I am totally out of the loop. What's this about the number of the 144,000 going up instead of down?? this I must hear!
"a date which will live...in infamy".
anybody here remember it firsthand?.
there must be very few actual vets left who were there, and the number gets smaller every year.. .
Wow....68 years. It's so odd to me to realize how long ago it was. Obviously with history study we all know the dates. But it was always something that I remembered from my grandfather as his youth. He and his two brothers all went to Leavenworth together because once drafted they refused to fight in WWII. So it was just one of those things that happened when he was a kid. But now he's gone, as are many of the vets, and it's something that slips a little further away each day, yet the aftermath remains.
i remember back in the day my mother, along with all her "friends," being completely disgusted and voicing said disgust, over what she felt were hypocritical people and jesus "lovers" such as tv evangelists, people who could do nothing but talk about jesus, people who were all about their version of christianity, especially the ones encountered in service that tried to instruct her versus listening to "the truth" she was "sharing" with them.
now, she had these opinions obviously because she was a devout jw, and especially at this time of year she was very vocal.
good god, it was pretty much 6 weeks of loathing coming out of her mouth at the end of every year.. do you find yourself, as an adult, with the same irriations but just for different reasons?
I remember back in the day my mother, along with all her "friends," being completely disgusted and voicing said disgust, over what she felt were hypocritical people and Jesus "lovers" such as TV evangelists, people who could do nothing but talk about Jesus, people who were all about their version of Christianity, especially the ones encountered in service that tried to instruct her versus listening to "the truth" she was "sharing" with them. Now, she had these opinions obviously because she was a devout JW, and ESPECIALLY at this time of year she was very vocal. Good god, it was pretty much 6 weeks of loathing coming out of her mouth at the end of every year.
Do you find yourself, as an adult, with the same irriations but just for different reasons? I personally, while respecting everyones beliefs, sometimes struggle to keep my patience with those...............particular people whose entire life revolves around say the events described in the gospels.
Does anyone else ever feel like that? Again, I respect everyone's beliefs. But man....sometimes I just wanna yell, "OK! ENOUGH...really. We GET it."
Part of me laughs because in a way it's pretty ironic. And part of me just wants to shake my head hard enough so it will fall off
i could use some perspective on something i'm struggling with.
first off, a little background info.
i am an only child and my parents, in addition to quite difficult circumstances we've all experienced, both personally and as a family while i was growing up, remain devout.
Thank you all SO much for your kind words of support and perspective! Right now I am leaning towards sending an announcement of some sort, with a photo of my fiance and myself and leave the ball in their court for any further contact. I don't wish for my happiness to be compromised by letting myself get sucked into their thinking. As a friend of mine put it last night, the only approval one needs in life is from those who you choose to surround yourself with. And while I do have a lot of strong emotions surrounding the past, I do want to look to the future. But bottom line, the wedding will be my special day, regardless of their presence and/or support. So, it's time to celebrate!! They can either choose to be a part of it, or choose not to, but either way it will be fantastic for me