Well yes, while it may be true (I say may because I haven't seen a number of decrease shown attributed to the net) that the internet has slowed JW growth, the fact still remains that there are 6.5 million baptized members and many more who are studying and working towards baptism. While the internet helps those still having their doors knocked on, what about the people already in? What about those of us who were raised in it and literally know nothing different? I agree that it is like David and Goliath trying to take down the WTBS. But the WTBS is an organization. If they crumbled that doesn't mean that JW's would suddenly disperse and cease to exist. Because they have enough loyal followers who would still practice and follow what they see is right. So perhaps the other way to approach things is on a personal level. The end of the society would not solve the JW problem. It would simply change it. In order to solve it not only must people stop joining, but the ones already in must see the reality of things. That is the level to which I think must be appealed.
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11Crazy Idea...or is it? Something similar to the Truth tobacco campaigns
by feenx inhey everbody,
i think it would be great, yet i dont know how plausible it would be, to launch an organized campaign against the wtbs similar what the truth about tobacco people do.
every so often they have a coordinated display to draw attention to tobacco companies as well as the general public about the dangers of smoking, second hand smoke, etc.
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Crazy Idea...or is it? Something similar to the Truth tobacco campaigns
by feenx inhey everbody,
i think it would be great, yet i dont know how plausible it would be, to launch an organized campaign against the wtbs similar what the truth about tobacco people do.
every so often they have a coordinated display to draw attention to tobacco companies as well as the general public about the dangers of smoking, second hand smoke, etc.
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feenx
That's a very good point. JW's would probably see something like that as yet another sign of "persecution" or some other form of proof that they are right and it is "the truth." BUT if they have to contend with people asking questions in service or at work/school, then they are forced to look at things a different way.
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Crazy Idea...or is it? Something similar to the Truth tobacco campaigns
by feenx inhey everbody,
i think it would be great, yet i dont know how plausible it would be, to launch an organized campaign against the wtbs similar what the truth about tobacco people do.
every so often they have a coordinated display to draw attention to tobacco companies as well as the general public about the dangers of smoking, second hand smoke, etc.
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feenx
Hey everbody,
I think it would be great, yet I dont know how plausible it would be, to launch an organized campaign against the WTBS similar what the Truth about Tobacco people do. Every so often they have a coordinated display to draw attention to tobacco companies as well as the general public about the dangers of smoking, second hand smoke, etc. etc.
Wouldn't it be great if those of use around the world could do something similar for JW's? Just an example off the top of my head....let's see I know that a lot of people dont know anything about Silentlambs or the recent settlements or rebuttal J.R. Brown gave to NBC admitting they had a database for child molestors. What if all on the same sunday we all put some type of flyer or something similar on the cars of all the Witnesses inside for their meetings. Surely if it was an organized effort in multiple locations it would create some buzz, perhaps lead people here or other places.....
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"Tears Of The Sun", a great movie with good moral overtones
by frankiespeakin ini've whatched this 3xs and would highly recommend it to all especially to those in the armed forces because of it's high moral value.. to me(po) i see the plot this way, our humanity's overpowering the state both in mind, and allegence.
bruce willis's part really displayed the inner turmoil that shear enormity of the cruelty when we put a face on it in human suffering as was done so well in the movie, one must disobey prime directives given by the "state".
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=276618247568344763&q=tears+of+the+sun+bruce+willis&total=46&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=9.
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feenx
That is a fantastic movie for sure! I also think a movie that has very good message and certainly made me evaluate things was Kingdom of Heaven. Good for anyone to watch, regardless of religious background, especially in the political climate of late.
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My Best friend (JW) wants to know why i won't return to KH
by freedomfighter intezza and me have been friends since we were 4 yrs old.
we share a long history and were both raised in "the truth".. recently, his sister, his sister-in-law and myself have left the org.
( all seperate situations).. anyway, next week he wants to go to the nearest pub with me, and shoot some pool, have some beers and a long chat.. when he asks why am i not coming back.
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feenx
Obviously each person is different, however if you think he may close up if you present doctrine issues or abuse issues or something like that, you could simply appeal to him as your friend. You've known each other your whole lives. He trusts you. Ask him to trust that you are doing what you feel is best. The bottom line is that at this time (no need to make things sound perm., that could turn him away) you feel it's not right for you to be active.
I know that when I left it initially had nothing to do with it not being "the truth" or wrong dates or the amount of abuse. I hadn't even begun to dive into any of that yet. All that mattered to me was that I was unhappy, and if I was unhappy at that time in the organization, was I really going to be happy for eternity in the organization? I stepped away to try to be happy. Plain and simple.
I think any life long friend, regardless of whether they feel the same way, can at least respect that. As a friend. And perhaps once he hears that, it will make him think, and at a later time you can share some of these other things that all JW's should know. Such as the dates and silentlambs and cover ups etc etc etc. -
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Someone In The Know Told Me About The Society's New Plans!
by minimus infrom now on, no dates will be espoused for future prophetic events!.
there will be a in-house elder arrangement that no longer depends upon the watchtower society's influence.. judicial commitees will no longer be in existence.
congregation members will have an active role in keeping the congregation clean while exercising appropriate mercy.. kingdom halls will mostly be sold and assembly halls will transmit circuit meetings by telephone, closed circuit tv, radio frequencies and by telephone every week.
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feenx
The day all that happens I'll switch teams and start getting to know the penis on a whole new level.
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What inspired your avatar and your screen name?
by Princess Daisy Boo intell me the story behind the picture.... why is mr flipper mr flipper?
how much do you look like zappa, jk666?
and gopher - are you really a little old man?
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Well I've always liked the way Phoenix sounded, and the meaning is quite fitting for me: "that which rises from the ashes of what was destroyed" . So I made my own spelling. The avatar itself is just something I created in Photoshop.
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2002 Body Of Elders (BOE) Letter?
by feenx inhey everybody :)
i've tried searching through past threads, however all the links seem to be outdated.
does anyone have the 2002 boe letters?
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Hey everybody :)
I've tried searching through past threads, however all the links seem to be outdated. Does anyone have the 2002 BOE letters? In the large compliation from 81-06 that was recently posted the index states that the 2002 letters have references for handling cases of abuse, however the 2002 letter doesn't seem to be in those files. Does anyone have the letter(s) in a single file format, other than with all the rest? -
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My wife is thinking AT LAST!!!!!
by tooktheredpill inhey guys!.
i can't wait to tell you something that happened last night.
in order to understarnd it, let me give you some details about me first: i'm still an elder, with my wife and the whole family and friends inside the borg.
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That is FANTASTIC! Very encouraging indeed :) How long have you been having such discussions with your wife? Were you both raised in "the truth?"
On a side note, I've heard bits and pieces of this "new light." What is their stance now? and this is the first time I've heard reference to it being recycled. Doesn't surprise me at all. It's funny and sad at the same time. :/ -
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Off Topic Question: Has Anyone haggled with Jiffy Lube over a new engine?
by feenx inyes that's right....lovely jiffy lube effed up my engine and it is toast.
i'm waiting to hear back from the district manager, whom i'm sure i will have to call myself.
i am anticipating them to fight it, even though a garage has put the blame completely on them.
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feenx
Thanks everybody for your feedback! :)
I too had thought about local media. There's a news guy here who has a radio show and a TV news program, they call him "The Troubleshooter" he's like a local BBB. Anyways I thought I could get him on it any other media outlet that will listen.
The mechanic thinks they either didn't put new oil in, or put the wrong kind of oil in. It started making a strange clicking noise the day after it was serviced, the noise would get louder when I hit the gas. It drove like that for a week until the engine literally blew. There's about a softball size hold in the bottom of the oil pan.
And I agree, they will be responsible for a rental and I want a Saab dealership to put a new factory engine in, not an independent garage.