Posts by jefferywhat

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The "annoited" generation was discarded in 1995...what a liars!!!

by bigbrotherWT in

look what i found doing some simple wt library research in the watchtower 1 of november 1995 (the same about the generation change)

questions from readers

at 1 peter 2:9, the king james version calls anointed christians a chosen generation.

jefferywhat

What is the reference for that?

Its worth a follow up letter.

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Need Info About CONVENTION CONTRIBUTIONS

by V in

i am looking for someone to comment on the way distrcit convention budgets are calculated, including the inevitable "deficit" that is based on a prearranged dontation to the "worldwide work.".

this information will be shown in an upcoming watchtower comments video, so i need accuracy, documents, links, anything you can provide.. thank you!.

jefferywhat

V, I have the entire "godly obedience" convention on disc in mp3 format. there is bound to be an announcement.

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Jehovah's Witnesses are fastest in growth

by FlipThis in

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Only the Jehovah’s Witnesses,
the Catholic Church,
Southern Baptists,
Mormons,
the Assemblies of God
African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church (1.4 million) reported increases; all others either posted declines or flat membership from 2005.

Does that mean they are all blessed?

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Need Info About CONVENTION CONTRIBUTIONS

by V in

i am looking for someone to comment on the way distrcit convention budgets are calculated, including the inevitable "deficit" that is based on a prearranged dontation to the "worldwide work.".

this information will be shown in an upcoming watchtower comments video, so i need accuracy, documents, links, anything you can provide.. thank you!.

jefferywhat

One thing I witnessed which confused me regarding assembly halls and contributions.

Johny donates money to do an extension at bethel, along with all the other johny's.

Then an assembly hall is build and they need machinery etc.

The money Johny donated to the WTBTS went towards buying machinery, which just so happens to be needed now by the new assembly hall construction.

So does the WTBTS simply donate it back?

No they sell in or hire it back to the people who provided the funds in the first place therefore more donations are needed to pay for it.

After the assembly hall is built, they dedicate it ( code word for give it over to the WTBTS).

That is crazy and goes towards the "price per publisher" figure.

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Changes to alot of the eschatological beliefs of the WBTS.

by jefferywhat in

i posted something similar on a different thread but it was blissfully ignored and i really think its worth a discussion.

leolola touched on this in another thread and that is of the changes to alot of the eschatological beliefs of the wbts.

a) 1935- no longer cut off for fds .

jefferywhat

With all due respect Alanv, these are not all old and are not all well known.

Items b, d, f and g are very new and not yet in print.

Those points ( and others) came out at the annual meeting and were then backed up in zone visits to the south east pacific and I imagine now the role out will continue.

They are yet to appear in print.

Feel free to quote a WT reference if I am mistaken.

I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am simply making the observation and hoping someone can postulate as to why these changes are occurring.

They are being backed up by a strong suggestion that the end is close and its going to be dangerous and will affect one and all not just JW's.

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Changes to alot of the eschatological beliefs of the WBTS.

by jefferywhat in

i posted something similar on a different thread but it was blissfully ignored and i really think its worth a discussion.

leolola touched on this in another thread and that is of the changes to alot of the eschatological beliefs of the wbts.

a) 1935- no longer cut off for fds .

jefferywhat

I posted something similar on a different thread but it was blissfully ignored and I really think its worth a discussion.

Leolola touched on this in another thread and that is of the changes to alot of the eschatological beliefs of the WBTS.

a) 1935- No longer cut off for FDS

b) 1914- No longer the time period of "these things" that the "generation" had to see, it is no "all" these things including Armageddon.

c) The generation has changed to a group that has no year reference or age reference attached.

d) Leaving Babylon the great no longer applies to the inspection of 1919 and has a different meaning now ( no longer fleeing false religion)

e) Sheep and goats long gone.

f) "Dragnet" illustration no longer applies to JW's specifically.

g) Cry of peace and security down played.

h) All they are waiting for is the King of the North and the UN to attack us and this will effect the whole world not just JW's.

What is going on here people, this is major when looked at as a whole, a major shift has occurred and its happening so slow its almost unnoticed.

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Regarding "The End Is So Close" Thread

by senora in

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i just had another take on that thread, so i decided to start a new one.. i've been going to the meetings off and on lately, so for the ones of you who haven't been in a while, you would not believe how much the the borg is constantly repeating that phrase over and over again.

its like they are trying to spook everyone out.

so everyone is constantly saying that phrase over and over, and i mean everyone.

jefferywhat

I agree with Billy.

I am in and have been saying on various posts that there is a very strong whisper campaign at the moment.

Some of the elders are really pushing this idea and some have backed it up in my area by selling houses and pioneering.

I have also mentioned some months back that the society is going to change so much that "if you cant handle change you wont hang around".

Most of Jesus illustrations are being changed and alot of the prophetic understanding are becoming less specific and more literal which suggests to me a major change at the base of the eschatological tree.

They are pushing three things, fear, guilt and absolute obedience. i.e we should preach more otherwise we will be blood guilty and fear in that terrible things are going to happen and if we are obedient to the FDS we will die.

Where is this headed? People are really buying into this wholesale.

Is it to counteract the fact that by changing the generation to the anointed, losing 1935 and "all these things" no longer applying to 1914 the end seems to be further off? Also, the cry of peace and security may already have happened or maybe wont be a big deal.

If we take away these dates, we are left with none. All we are waiting for is the King of the North and the UN to attack us.

This is the new "carrot" and it is based on fear, at any point it could happen.