A couple of things to keep in mind.
1. We are not the majestic end of the evolutionary process. This is a common misconception.
2. The Darwinian theory has pretty well be rejected, he thought in more of a linear fashion, we now know it was far different.
3. Evolution is a process not a causation.
4. The Neanderthal were very closely related to us but very different to us anatomically, I could list them but they are numerous. They would have looked like say JK666 on the outside but vastly different internally. Evolution must be responsible because Jehovah didnt create the Neanderthal.
5. If you believe in God the process of creation is irrelevant, Genesis gives us no detail, if you dont believe in God then purpose is irrelevant so who cares how.
6. Mitochondrial DNA evolves all the time and we dont find that hard to grasp.
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The evolution & creation dilemma? ItÂ’s driving me mad
by Mr. Majestic inmy mind has been twisting for a few months now.
i suppose i am trying to fill the void left by the faith ive lost.
but i am trying to make sense of what is.
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One easy question to stump a JW
by drew sagan infor quite some time i have been tossing around the idea that there has to be a question out there, a question that can cut straight to the heart of what it means to question the watchtower.
last night while doing some mindless tasks i think that question may have come to me.
the question is: .
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hey Drew,
A side point I know but what doesnt add up for me is that Jesus was enthroned as king in October ( its always October) 1914.
Satan was thrown down in 1914( we "know" this because of because of WWI,) but WWI started in August, Not October.
Even if we say Satan was thrown down earlier, he managed to immediately organise a world war, in like no time, but it took 3.5 years for Jesus to "cleanse" the heavens in preparation for the heavenly resurrection.
Why would that take 3.5 years? And why is Satan a quicker organizer?
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JWs: Biggest Turnover Rate of Members! "Masked churn" rate of 2/3rds!!
by Seeker4 inan article just out this afternoon said the following.
note especially the second paragraph about jws: .
for some groups, their relatively steady number of adherents over the years hides a remarkable amount of coming and going.
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A friend of ine who is pioneering in Auz emailed me the other day and said all pioneers have been offered free language lessons and have been encouraged to join a foreign language group.
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What is the Russell book with detailed pyramid drawings on first pages?
by oompa instudies in the scriptures volume 1 "divine plan of the ages"...
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JCanon.
Proof? If you have none, start a new post entitled " choose your own adventure".
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OnStar cracked up to be, in a crack-up like this?
by Fatfreek inthe following onstar advertisment page from time has me puzzled.
you will see that the victim is being rescued and that he is in the middle of some desert wilderness.
the problem i have with this ad is based on my road trip experience last summer and the premise of onstar's claim that you must have cell phone coverage.
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FYI, most advertising guidelines stipulate that if a photo or film is shot advertising a service, the service provider must be able to prove that their service is available where the shot was taken.
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New Light - ?
by ocsrf injanuary 15, 2008 watchtower, page 23 paragraph 16. it seems, however, that not all who have been called to a heavenly hope since the 1930's are replacements for ones who have fallen away.
jehovah has evidently made sure that we will have anointed christians amoung us all through the final days of this system of things until the destruction of "babylon the great.
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You would be amazed at how many people in the org, active and vocal, have no idea about 1935, it has long ago been forgotten.
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Watchtower Flip-Flops Make Silent History
by Fatfreek inoops!
the frame would not show properly.
i'll have to go to plan b -- and i don't know what that is.
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What is the Russell book with detailed pyramid drawings on first pages?
by oompa instudies in the scriptures volume 1 "divine plan of the ages"...
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I think its the studies in the scriptures, my congregation library has al of his books.
Brought up at a BBQ that CTR got 1914 from pyramids and got into a debate with a couple of MTS boys, when i showed them the books in the hall they shut up.
Also successfully argued that we cant know for sure if CTR was FDS because he was dead before the inspection.
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"Babylon the Great", who is she?
by JH inin the book of revelation, talking about things to come, babylone the great is to be destroyed, in one hour.. .
some think that babylon the great symbolizes america, while others like the jw's say it's the false relgions that will be destroyed by the un.... .
who do you think babylon the great represents?.
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Do the 24 elders tell the truth?
by cultswatter inthis is from the revelation climax book (hard cover 1988).
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what ya think?.
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Im confused, the WTBTS says they are inspired but are "spirit directed".
But the same elders involved in this vision are the same ones directing the org today.
So....ummmm.......they aren't inspired........but the process used to write inspired scripture is being used today......and the org is the only channel........
So are they inspired or not?