I'm between stages 3 and 4. (bargaining and depression). I'm still in, just to keep my family, and feel stressed most of the time.
I'll love to get to the 5th stage...
TTRP
i was thinking about the different stages we go through when we start to find out the lies of the jw.
i find they are similar to the stages someone might go through when they find out they are going to die soon.
i think this one is obvious.
I'm between stages 3 and 4. (bargaining and depression). I'm still in, just to keep my family, and feel stressed most of the time.
I'll love to get to the 5th stage...
TTRP
oh, how many of us heard that we wouldn't make it to graduation or get married in this system?
i thought i wouldn't grow up.
no one talked about preparing for the future.
I've heard that there are "only-JW" schools in Tampa. Is that true?
TTRP
oh, how many of us heard that we wouldn't make it to graduation or get married in this system?
i thought i wouldn't grow up.
no one talked about preparing for the future.
setting: sunday talk.
brother giving the talk (bgtt): 'a co told me' (he said that as in god told me), 'the only three reasons for missing a meeting are...' (drum roll) ... 'the three fs'.. me (thinking): wtf?
mmm.
What if you have an appointment in the beauty salon? A "Facial" starts with "F".
If you are traveling? "Flying" starts with "F".
"Fornicating" too!!!! :)
well, happy new year to all of you, my friends here on jwd !
it should prove to be another rockin' and rollin' year here on jwd !
so, what do you hope to accomplish or take away in a beneficial way from posting on this board in 2008 ?
In 2008:
I will reach 100 posts, and stop being a "Newbie"
recently i went to the circuit convention.
an illustration was mentioned that really made me mad.
they said that "you can see a 5 stories high building.
I heard a lot of similar illustrations. But, that was pretty bad.
NY: That's right. it was bad. But I found one that is worst! Check it out, and tell me what do you think:
recently i went to the circuit convention.
an illustration was mentioned that really made me mad.
they said that "you can see a 5 stories high building.
Hello all!
Recently I went to the Circuit Convention. An illustration was mentioned that really made me mad. They were talking again about "Superior Education(tm)".
They said that "you can see a 5 stories high building. There is a wooden ladder in the side of the building, and lots of big and sharp stones in the floor. The ladder is in bad shape and rotten... Would you let your child climb??"
They compared the College with the rotten ladder!!!! Can you believe it??!
"Everybody should start pioneering right after High School"...
As always, studying was a "conscience matter", but don't do it!!
How do you feel when you hear this nonsense???
notwithstanding the plain fact that the watchtower's heinous "two witness" rule is obviously flawed (scripturally and in terms of natural justice), it seems to me that as long as the elders are advising the parent/caregiver to go to the authorities in every case where an accusation of child abuse has occurred that this is sufficient for the elders to discharge their legal duty, shouldn't it?.
i have heard rumours that this is in fact the official current policy (since when i don't know) of the society: that they tell the elders to advise the parent/caregiver to inform the authorities of alleged child abuse.
but how firm is this policy?
Must Obey: I posted a similar question in another thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/147186/2664328/post.ashx#2664328 .
There I mentioned the only 2 letters we currently have in the congregation archives. None of them give specific instructions about how to deal with child abuse allegations. It only says that you need to "call the Legal Department". (Obviously, you will not have anything in writing from them!). And says NOTHING about conforting the victim!
They are doing the very similarly in the Elder's schools. They dictate, and you have to write the changes in your own book... They don't gave you anything printed... And all the changes are to cover the Organization's back.
TTRP
here you are.
i will use these and the ones unused from the last thread to make a fun with covers 19. .
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for me, it was a combination of things over a long period of time.
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how about you?
The first time somebody made me "use my brain", was in 1994.
I traveled to NJ for a seminar, and I started talking about the bible with a guy that I met there. He asked me if I was "saved". I borrowed his bible (he had a copy of a Reina-Valera version), and I showed him some specific verses I knew from James, about "faith without works is dead". I thought that I was teaching him about the bible!!! :) He grabbed it, and then showed me dozens of verses from Romans, that showed me that Faith was more important! Then, I started noticing that I didn't knew about the bible as much as I thought...and started reading the context!
As a good WT member, I suppressed all my doubts for years, even when I saw discrepancies between what the WT says vs. the instructions I received as an Elder.
In the beginning of 2007, I started doing a reserch of information for a travel to Europe. I don't know why, I started researching about Jerusalem in Wikipedia, and I noticed the destruction of Jerusalem's date of 587BC by Babylon. I started researching every book and encyclopedia that I found for weeks... The 607BC date had no base, so the 1914, 1918, 1935... all is a fairy tale...
The rest is history...