… how many people read the articles and then end up "in tears".
DB, 'tears’ of sentiment? …or, ‘tears’ of hilarity?
Flip
do you think that part of the awake is another made up version, like the question from readers?
or do you think "real" people send in those "oh, this helped me to be so blah blah blah" experiences for real?.
in the manner of richard dawson...... survey says:.
… how many people read the articles and then end up "in tears".
DB, 'tears’ of sentiment? …or, ‘tears’ of hilarity?
Flip
i hear and read and form my thoughts about the insanity that was my life and those of others who experienced being a jw.
i am still stumped.
as much as i disagree with jw, have strong opinions about it, and feel it is very unhealthy, what is "their" motivation?
But what about the JW's? what is their payoff to mislead millions?
…Self-validation through association.
I doubt Jehovah’s Witnesses mislead “millions”, only themselves, the rest of the worlds hardly heard of them.
If any of the comments read on this discussion forum is any indication, many of those “millions” are wise, at least subconsciously, to those controlling the WTBTS but remain to play the game because of what they can gain for themselves or what they might lose.
Flip
in the late 70's, i began experiencing health problems.
the elders wanted to know if i purchased anything new, thinking i was under demon attack.
the only thing new in our household was a kitten.
Welcome Spike and truly sorry about the kitten, but Elders “motivate” other Jehovah’s Witnesses to contribute for every WTBTS publication produced and to disperse those documents on their own dime, before the next batch arrives.
Dealing with Witchcraft is probably only an Elder side line otherwise a medical practitioner, as you finally came to realize, is usually the best bet.
Welcome to the 21st Century, by the way.
Flip
people have a right to choose their own associates.. likewise, parents should have strong influence over.
who their minor children associate with.. these truths are a far cry, however from the inept and.
cruel actions of elders, in hunting down, stalking,.
Cut off your witness relatives until they start acting like humans.
Unfortunately Joel, that activity is exactly what those controlling the WTBTS want you to do.
By doing so, your actions create a self-induced quarantine that automatically blocks the flow of sensory information between former Jehovah’s Witnesses and the actual victims, those who remain with the WTBTS corporation.
Unless of course, when reverse shunning is used in conjunction with other means as a retaliatory response to demonstrate how childishly vile the loyal WTBTS follower is acting when they do the same towards a fellow human being.
Remember, current Jehovah's Witnesses are taught shunning is the loving thing to do but is an illusion created by the WTBTS designed to restrict free flow of information that may expose those remaining to the countless errors of WTBTS history, doctrine and dogma.
Flip
i knew a presiding overseer in the congregation i attened who was possibly the strangest person i ever met.
he took a rigorous position toward the society's view on everything!!!
he was against many things ....including....science fiction, fantasy, the x-files, disneyland, cartoons and football.
I remember thinking as a regular pioneer working with a COs wife - "For fuck's sake - are you on drugs or something?" She did always look a little wired come to think of it...
Matahari, In the words of Rick to the Capitaine while the aircraft engine noise recedes into the night, they stroll across the rain slicked runway tarmac and into the mist, he says, “…I think this could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship…”
LOL, Keep your observations coming and welcome, indeed!
Flip
the kingdom interlinear translation (kit) has been published by the.
watchtower since 1969. it still is available in it's second editon.. but how many really use this book?
or read it?
I suspect that it (Westcott and Hort text) was employed because the WTBTS could get it for free.
Since those controlling the WTBTS have always maintained they never “pass the collection plate”…I guess the old saying, “…you get what you pay for” holds true for the WTBTS audience of Jehovah's Witnesses on both counts!
Flip
so beijing is going to hold the olympic games in 2008. unbelieveable.. human rights are now no longer an issue, apparently.. some would say that the chinese government will now be all luvvy-duvvy to its people so that they don't get the elbow before the games start.
taiwan is over the moon - no invasion for at least 6 years.. ok, thats the heavy stuff over for a minute!
out of curiosity, lets see which country you would like to see hold the olympic games in 2012.. oh yes, you can't vote for your own country!.
lets see which country you would like to see hold the Olympic games in 2012.
· Tibet...or whatever's left after the Chinese government gets through with it, while our Western commerce turns a blind eye.
· Or maybe Afgahnastan, its government has proven they're a God fearing Nation and a shining example for all Christian fundamentalists of what can be accomplished once the scourge of atheistic scrutiny is expunged.
Regardless, Venus Williams should have a good chance representing Jehovah, the WTBTS Corporation and Jehovah’s Witnesses everywhere by having the opportunity to prance around the Beijing tennis courts wrapped in the “ol’ Red, White and Blue” once again.
Go! Venus!
Flip
Should have been posted on July 1st and/or the 4th, just to rub it in, but now is as good a time as any...:
We are Canadian !!!!!
So, what do Canadians have to be proud of?
1. Smarties
2. Crispy Crunch & Coffee Crisp
3. The size of our football fields and one less down.
4. Baseball is Canadian
5. Lacrosse is Canadian
6. Hockey is Canadian
7. Basketball is Canadian
8. Apple pie is Canadian
9. Mr. Dress-up kicks Mr. Rogers ass
10. Tim Horton's kicks Dunkin' Donuts ass
11. In the war of 1812, which was started by Americans, Canadians pushed the Americans WAY back... past their beloved 'White House' ...then we burned it...and most of Washington. All of this was done under the command of William Lyon McKenzie who was insane and hammered all the time.
We got bored because they ran away, so we came home and
partied....go figure!
12. Canada has the largest French population that never surrendered to Germany.
13. We have the largest English population that never ever surrendered or withdrew during any war to anyone, anywhere.
14. Our civil war was only a bar fight that lasted a little over an
hour.
15. The only person who was arrested in our civil war was an American
mercenary, who slept-in and missed the whole thing ...but showed up just in time to get caught.
16. We knew plaid was cool far before Seattle caught on.
17. The Hudsons Bay Company once owned over 10% of the earth's surface and is still around as the worlds oldest company
18. The average dog sled team can kill and devour a full grown American in under 3 minutes.
19. We still know what to do with all the parts of a buffalo.
20. We don't marry our kin-folk.
21. Kentucky Fried Chicken founder, Colonel Harland Saunders abandoned the USA and came North to retire in Canada (Mississauga, Ontario).
22. We may say "eh" a lot but we know how to pronounce ROOF!!!
23. We invented ski-doos, jet-skis, velcro, zippers, insulin,
penicillin, zambonis, the telephone and short wave radios that save
countless lives each year.
24. We ALL have frozen our tongues to something metal and lived to tell about it.
25. BUT MOST IMPORTANT! ...the handles on our beer cases are big enough to fit your hands with mitts on.
OhOOOOoohhhhh Yeah!!! We ARE Canadian!!!
anon.
"what the hell is a watchtower, what the hell are publishers, where are you getting all this bullshit?".
st paul.
yerusalyim.
Seriously folks! back stage, me and Schlomo the CO smoked a bong so big...I had to hold it like this!
Flip :)
i have a question:.
if the wtbts is so into deceiving everyone and trying to reel in as many newcomers as possible, what does it actually have to gain from this?
why are they always trying to switch teachings to make themselves look "believable"?
In addition to the previous answers to your question aud8, those who control the WTBTS have received, for example, a legacy of accumulated assets that includes farms, body shops, orchards, printing facilities, purchase contracts with automobile suppliers and all their infrastructure needs, hotels, investment accounts with some of the most prestigious institutions of American commerce, buildings and real estate situated on some of the most lucrative soil in the world.
The WTBTS is not unlike any other enterprise, religious or otherwise, on the face of the earth. If you where in charge of a business of this magnitude, would you not use every manipulative marketing technique and legal design in an effort to perpetuate its growth, or at the very least preserve assets?
Or would you relinquish and publicly acknowledge your companies, past and present obfuscation of substantial errors of judgment and policies that may put your business at significant risk of losing credibility thus market share?
Flip