Posts by FiveShadows

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Letter to the GB

by Undecided in

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governing body .

watchtower bible & tract society .

dear who ever you are, .

Venting @*$& (II)

by Tashawaa in

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just thought i'd share this email, i recieved.

in light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: this is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.. .

billy graham's daughter was interviewed on the early show and jane clayson asked her "how could god let something like this happen?

FiveShadows

Your not the first, and if that is what you want...so be it. :) ~FS

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Venting @*$& (II)

by Tashawaa in

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just thought i'd share this email, i recieved.

in light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: this is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.. .

billy graham's daughter was interviewed on the early show and jane clayson asked her "how could god let something like this happen?

FiveShadows

Jgnat, May I respond? Thank you

The fellow who was born blind. Whose sin was it? His parents or his own.

In regards the fellow that was 'born blind,' just as it is our fault from the beginning of things that lead to the consequences that occured that Jah and Jah-Eshua the Christ had warned us ahead of time it is likewise our fault that the fellow was born blind due to the actions that occured prior to his birth. You do not know why he is blind but one thing can eb agreed from the beginning ...we sinned and because of it, everything occured. So whose 'fault' is it that all this occured?

FiveShadows. Who gave you sight in to my heart? Or Jehovah's? I know I am His He rescued me a long time ago.

I am nothing, and no one, but the One that has sent me to deliver the message reads all hearts. I cannot read hearts but hear the 'spirit of Truth' that contains no lie. Jah of armies has 'rescued' you from what occured to you...Prior to this moment you did not listen to the counsel given to you. But this 'rescue' occured for you. Should you have then (before the rescue) listened to the counsel, you would not have gone through what it is that you did. Yes? that is what i was sent to bring out to you. However, I was also sent to inform you that your cries were not in vain. And that you were heard by the most High in which He sent His son to repeatedly beg you and then 'delivered' or 'rescued' you out of the state in which you were. You should not have gone through what you did, yet keep in mind we are all deserving of death.

You speak of 'Jehovah' Once again i bring to your attention the message i was sent to deliver:

For He speaks by saying that He has heard your cries of agony and asks for you to seek Him out and stop 'running'. For He will comfort you and asks you to practice love, mercy and Truth in your heart and to all.

This is what the Christ has said to you. Test it out and see if it is Truth and keep in mind that 'No one can go to the Father except through the Son' (John 14:6) Truly I say to you today, Unless you go and 'get to know the Son of the Most High,' you will by no other means know the Father. (John 14:7) ~FS

Edited by - FiveShadows on 7 November 2002 13:2:35

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Did anyone see Serena Williams on The Tonight Show

by JWinSF in

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last night i happened to surf onto the tonight show.

bob newhart was the first guest, the second was serena williams.

as i'd never actually seen her before [not a sports buff] and all i'd heard about her was the various jw postings, i was curious.. first, she came off as totally natural to me.

FiveShadows

oh ok...perhaps it was an olllld article ...eh...anyway Thanks for clearing it up for me :) appreciate it! ~FS

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Did anyone see Serena Williams on The Tonight Show

by JWinSF in

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last night i happened to surf onto the tonight show.

bob newhart was the first guest, the second was serena williams.

as i'd never actually seen her before [not a sports buff] and all i'd heard about her was the various jw postings, i was curious.. first, she came off as totally natural to me.

FiveShadows

JWinSF, to be perfectly honest i'm not really suprized. The fact is she has a lot of money now and because she has a lot of money the jws' will pretty much allow her to do anything and get away with it. If she goes into 'show business' she does...and they probably wont care. It just means more donations for them and they'll call it 'work.' The reason i say this is because i read of an article i don't know if it was on this website or another but it was talking about michael jackson and an interview with him. Apparently he still is a jw and goes out in street work. But seeing how he's MJ ...he wears an outfit (like in his halloween special thing of the big fat guy) so people cannot recognize him. See? I recall this article not too long ago. if i am mistaken by any chance let me know...so i can understand the full detail but from what i recall he said he does this, being an 'active witness' and making halloween music films *video*...interesting isn't it? i personally don't give a crap what he does and don't think he's any worse then me or anyone else but by the jw standard...wouldn't this be considered as hypocrasy, when one person is told 'if you go supporting halloween you'll be d'fed? And yet here is MJ. HEHE (says it like him)~FS

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Stupid drunk drivers......

by Jesus Christ in

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my house is at the end of a fairly busy street that dead ends in our front yard and then takes up again a few houses down.

i was trying to set up some email stuff for a client tonight around 10:30 when i heard some police sirens.

i stood up and looked out my window to see a pair of headlights quickly coming towards my house with the police behind them.

FiveShadows

Hey Jesus how's satan doing? ~FS

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What "SIN" do elders respond to fastest?

by Dismembered in

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maybe it's just me but, it seem like "elders" respond extremely quickly to "sexual misconduct" as long as it does not involve their own family members.

true or false?

FiveShadows

THE FASTEST way to get any elder to kick you out, or respond quicker...is when it's not even a SIN. You speak TRUTH to them...about who they are and what position they hold and that is a 'good for nothing servent that has no authority to judge' or speak to them in regards their religion being the 'disgusting thing causing desolation standing in a holy place.' Truth is the fastest thing they respond to...but sadly it's not a sin ...at all. I told one sister a message that she could not react to and got disfellowshiped asap.~FS

Edited by - fiveshadows on 6 November 2002 15:38:10

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What Was The 1st Thing That Made You Question?

by minimus in

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as a youngster raised in the "truth", i had my questions.

but anytime you ask a question that is unanswerable, you are told to just wait on jehovah.

as time passes, i believe that we store up a number of unanswerable questions that forces one to eventually think about everything.

FiveShadows

1 thess 4:14-18 (especially verse 17 and 18)

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Venting @*$& (II)

by Tashawaa in

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just thought i'd share this email, i recieved.

in light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: this is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.. .

billy graham's daughter was interviewed on the early show and jane clayson asked her "how could god let something like this happen?

FiveShadows

Praise Jah! :) sorry so confusing i tried hard to clear it..and apologize if there was misunderstanding. but anyhow...how about them dodgers? eh? ~FS

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Venting @*$& (II)

by Tashawaa in

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friends

just thought i'd share this email, i recieved.

in light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: this is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.. .

billy graham's daughter was interviewed on the early show and jane clayson asked her "how could god let something like this happen?

FiveShadows

You (Iwasyoungonce) said:

5 d's Thanks. I do have the inner peace that you speak of. And I hope you find the same. The only thing that we are talking about here is reward and punishment.

Thank you

However the 'root' of the post that which we all are talking about was the email:

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"

And the answer to the root was calmly backing out, not Abandonment.

You feel that because of ungodly standards or the outright rejection of faith (in God) the horror of 9/11 was allowed. As if a "vail of protection was lifted."

No actually it was 'warned...God backs off, then reap what you sow.' Stated here:

If someone wishes to do something that is not'good' but rather 'bad' they are warned...but if they ignor the
message repeatedly and continue to ignor...even to the point in which they do that which is 'bad' they reap what they sow yes?

And:

"This does not imply that he abandoned us, for the abandonment would be to
desert entirely and to give up entirely"

An example of this can be found in Genesis 2:16,17

you said:

That to me is abandonment in time of need.

If God warns you ahead of time the consequences of your actions that you wish to do and allows you to sin and all sin is just flat out sin, (even when you hurt others) and these men that did this were obviously aware of the consequences that they will die and (it's a suicide mission) their judgement to shed innocent blood and He has already told everyone 'if you live by the law, you're judged by the law,' and 'don't shed innocent blood' is it God's fault that the terrorist agreed to those terms outlined ahead of time before this was done?

You said:

The sad truth is the only ones that could have positivly stopped this tragity were the ones that inflicted it.

This is true stated here:

It is up to the person himself (servent of God or not) to decide whether or not he should do the act or not, and if he fails to test out the spirit and does it regardless of what God has said even if he knows that God has spoken this as being 'wrong' who else is to blame but the person themselves?

Even the people on the plane, that could've stopped this.

You said:

They believed that God commanded, demanded them to do this act. Which of course was not true. But, they believed in a man made "paradise" that will be created by a river of blood. And, that's the way they and the the others like them will be because, it is what they choose.

Yes sad isn't it? you said:

Remember they brought this to us not the other way around.

If you really want to get to the very core of the problem (Not post, the post's core was 'how could God allow this to happen') please read my response here:

'Since in the beginning there was only Love (God) and Hate (death) and we are told to be like love and to practice love and we refuse and ignor to do so...and we continue to put God out of our lives and He has granted our wishes and only those that do His will does he get invovled with because all others have pushed him out how can we sit back and blame him whenif ALL (keyword) would just LISTEN and obey His commandments would our peace be like the sea?

Perhaps this needs to be more clear but my point was in the beginning we sinned and brought this upon ourselves. If we did not sin none of this would have happened. AND God is not to blame.

That's not my point. These men brought this to us. God had nothing to do with it. Nor did Satan.

Actually we brought this upon ourselves. and God has nothing to do with this yes. For we were hewed out (Isaiah 51:1) of the rock (Christ: 1 Corinthians 10:4) As adam's spirit and ours were 'one' before (1 corinthians 15:22). We including adam were created through Christ being part of (or in union with) 'The rock' and yet we as well as Adam sinned knowing that we would die and reap what we sow.

You said:

I can't believe that some people can not just grow some balls and admit this is our own SNAFU. And grow up.

Yes as you've stated above...it is our own chaos as a result of reaping what we sow. You said:

And in Luke 15 God ran to at the same time the son was comming back. He Ran. I do not believe that what ever I do I will be abandoned not by me and not by him. (Or that God will take 5)

Yes God helped right? Just like he gives us divine warning ahead of time about what we're going to be doing from the beginning right? Just like he sent His son to help us OUT of this mess that we're reaping right?

you said:

Say what you will you will not shake that from me. May you one day have that kind of peace and security "5 Shadows"

Ok um...If i may ask Where is our disagreement? I ask this because i do not see it...you agree that God is not at fault ...i agree. you said :

I can't believe that some people can not just grow some balls and admit this is our own SNAFU. And grow up.

I agree.

For those who are offended by that or whom think that I am ungodly...Well to bad.

sweetie i never said your ungodly (if you were implying this)...I am a good for nothing servent. I try very hard to serve others and do the best i can. For a while i was nto doing this and recieved discipline for it...I have learned my lesson and am trying now to serve others. If anything I am YOUR servent. And it is by means of undeserved kindness, love, mercy and life that i exist to serve you.

I bid EVERYONE peace and pray for the spirit of Jah and Jah-Eshua to be upon them. ~FS

Edited by - FiveShadows on 5 November 2002 21:53:12