Present truth /light
Old truth /light
New truth /light
smiddy
i have seen these words/phrases used frequently by the wtbs and rarely elsewhere.
** warning, this may become a barf inducing list.
your mileage may vary.. faithful and discreet slavefield servicemodern day antediluvians (pulled that one out of my hat)what words or phrases strike you as uniquely "watchtower"?.
Present truth /light
Old truth /light
New truth /light
smiddy
no doubt all have this letter already.
http://www.jwstudies.com/mantey_to_the_wts_1974.pdf.
doug.
Their doesn`t seem to be any end to their deception.Even though this dates back to 1974,my first awakening was the misquoting of the late Carl Sagan (evolution book )also the higher education and blood misquotations to support their "theology"
thanks for this doug
smiddy
convinced as i 99% am that the wt society is all we have concluded, i feel i owe to myself and my children to be 100% convinced before actively trying to extract them.. first up i must say, doctrine is of little interest to me.
what gets me is the provable wrong-doing, the hypocrasy, cover-ups, double standards, you know what i mean i think.. on that sort of stuff, i feel it right to look at the counter arguments and proofs offered to explain the wt side of things, both by wt soc themselves and apologists.. therein lies the daunting road.
i grew up in the 'truth', so i never got to make sure of all things before getting baptised.
Aussie oz
Sometimes it`s a long process disengaging oneself from this religion,I was a convert at 19 and it took many years to eventually break free from the controlling influence of the religion.If you have been brought up in it then it`s that much harder.(I was in for 33 yrs )
Download Don Camerons book from lulu $ 7;00??" Captives of a concept"
read Kerry lauderbach`thesis on rort of mispresentation on the blood issue
I was disgusted with their misrepresentation of quotes from worldly people on the subjects of "Evolution" Carl Sagan
and higher education by educators who were completely taken out of context to validate the wathtower point of veiw
So how many other quotes were misrepresented ???? to" prove" their point
smiddy
i am still a member of the jw's organization.
i have been puzzled over some of the teachings for many years but as i seemed to be the only one querying things among my local jw's i felt as if i was going crazy.
i was very relieved to find this site, a few months ago, full of evidence to back up my findings, and so much more.. i am so grateful to you all.. i do not want to leave the organization until i have planted some seeds in my family to open their eyes.
Good to have you here
smiddy
Have a good one all
smiddy
the society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".
they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.
one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.
If the bible were truly inspired by God then it should not be inaccurate when dealing with facts even if not understood by bible writers.
Which proves the bible was a book written by men influenced by the intellect of the time
smiddy
i know what the witness response is to this but what do you say now?.
I have just come in on this post and addmittedly no tread through all the previous posts,however satan the devil is the father of the lie and original deceiver of humankind,what suffering has he gone through these past 6000 + yrs??? bugger all !!!Their is no bible god,it`s all a man made con to control and regulate the masses.The bible regulates a % of the population with christendom, Islam regulates a % Judaism another % of the population,India`s religions control another %,chinese religions another % Buhdism another% taoism another% and whatever goddamned else is out their. It`s all a matter of control over the population.Going back to the beginning of my post if satan was the cause of all this why hasn`t he gone through any of the suffewring that humans have endured these past 6 centuries.(remember he still had access to the presence of God in the heavenly realm thousands of years later ref. Job ) No the God of the bible does not exist.
smiddy
it's been established that the wt convinced the bulgarian government that there are "no sanctions" on jws who accept blood transfusions, in order to obtain legal recognition by that government.
my question is this:.
does the wt actually now allow bulgarian jws to accept blood transfusions without consequence?.
A person who is a jw and accepts a blood transfusion,by his/her own actions has rejected the teachings of jw`s thereby disassociating his/her self from the christian congregation.Treated the same way as a disfellowshiped person.
smiddy
i'd like to know who you all are on the board.. you dont have to identify yourself personaly as i understand some need to be ingocnito.
i am also curious to see if any of my old childhood and adult life friends have made it onto here.. me: lived in ballarat 70s, naracoorte in the 80s, adelaide in the 90s.
traveled to york w.a as a teen and to alice springs and brisbane early twenties.. of course, if you need to be silent, thats fine too!
When I started in 1960 I was in Melb.central cong.(clifton hill )then heidelberg cong ,preston cong,and finally keon park cong,b4 heading north to qld.
smiddy
i took the advice of some here and "went to the press".
here's the resulting article: http://www.monticellotimes.com/articles/2009/04/09/community/879zimmerman.txt.
i think it turned out rather well..
I could not see the article either
smiddy