this topic was inspired by oompa and his sail boat.
on the other hand i am stuck in this room with my mother, and have a long night ahead of me and need some entertainment.
for you younger posters, i would love to hear from you because you have time to make your dreams real.. for the older ones, i would like to know how you reconciled dreams lost, dreams still out there, and what you are left with.. wings (of the middle aged posters).
I imagine some exJWs who lose whole families maybe feel the despair of finding new dreams?
Just a hunch I have.
And I pressume ones who lose most of their family in conflict have more problems on how to create a positive future vision of daily life?
Plus ones whose life is derailed by disabilities and rejection.
It's a relativity thing most likely - maybe?
I do know, that for some, life dreams are to be had whilst sleeping!
this topic was inspired by oompa and his sail boat.
on the other hand i am stuck in this room with my mother, and have a long night ahead of me and need some entertainment.
for you younger posters, i would love to hear from you because you have time to make your dreams real.. for the older ones, i would like to know how you reconciled dreams lost, dreams still out there, and what you are left with.. wings (of the middle aged posters).
I feel that this topic is a major reason why JWs don't understand exJWs pain!
They just don't see how they stole all their dreams due to their still living a complete delusion they think you need to go back to.
And reasoning or thinking about the stalemate is as bad as WT essence itself - loaded with despair and false promises.
I'm not sure it is healthy to expect any dreams? Life is more of a daily chore one needs to meet when it arrives!
If anything changes let us know - we'll be pleased to know about it!
this topic was inspired by oompa and his sail boat.
on the other hand i am stuck in this room with my mother, and have a long night ahead of me and need some entertainment.
for you younger posters, i would love to hear from you because you have time to make your dreams real.. for the older ones, i would like to know how you reconciled dreams lost, dreams still out there, and what you are left with.. wings (of the middle aged posters).
Wings,
Absolutely!
But if a dream doesn't come along be ready for a rough ride into where they don't even exist!
i know this board is focused on jw issues, but one or two people may be interested in an article on the bbc website, which discusses the attitudes to apostacy in the islamic religion.
here is a quick overview:.
the penalty for leaving islam or converting to another religion is death.
Has anyone done the math? Is the whole world is becoming more integrated and educated at a faster rate than the population growth in relatively uneducated portions of humanity?
I say this because I feel the future of humanity will largely depend on global awareness of 'belief' rather than indoctrination.
All beliefs have been passed down by humans to humans and it is up to present day humans to fathom future ways of life that all of us can aspire to absent fear and threat.
We see how conflict breeds conflict.
How to change on a global scale will indeed test humanitys intellectuals to their inner core.
i'm back from a little jwd break and i'm happy to see that things are not as volatile as when i left.
however, some things never change.
and one thing that seems to be a constant around here is the mentality of some very intelligent and knowledgeble ones (in their own minds at least) that if you are "nice" you are some how emotionally needy and/or not too bright.. i don't think the "happy people" on the board have anything against people with high iq's.
Changeling,
My comments were not loaded or alluding to any other posters = quite simply a response to a human emotion I detected!
I would say it to anyone whom I felt was low on inner energies, not because they are weak but because it happens to us all and we all benefit from awareness and focus on strengthening who we are deep down. In fact it has always been so. I remind myself more than anyone!
Oh and where is Flipper btw?
i know this board is focused on jw issues, but one or two people may be interested in an article on the bbc website, which discusses the attitudes to apostacy in the islamic religion.
here is a quick overview:.
the penalty for leaving islam or converting to another religion is death.
You would think anyone following any religion with such extreme views would question their own loyalty?
Like;
If I die if I leave, am I following it because I love or because I want my own life (utter self centred preservation) or due to complete fear?
So I would agree with those followers who disagree with such an 'aura' because it completely undermines freewill of the human life form!
this topic was inspired by oompa and his sail boat.
on the other hand i am stuck in this room with my mother, and have a long night ahead of me and need some entertainment.
for you younger posters, i would love to hear from you because you have time to make your dreams real.. for the older ones, i would like to know how you reconciled dreams lost, dreams still out there, and what you are left with.. wings (of the middle aged posters).
That is a tough question Wings!
Many here know they have had dreams supplanted by WT EGO DREAMS and then demolished on leaving.
Many have no way to visualise new dreams and are simply picking up pieces of their past life whilst yet more damage continues to radiate through their lives!
Maybe the question could be:
When do you feel you will pick up all your pieces and halt further personal destruction?
That is the turning point on which dreams can begin to appear!
i'm back from a little jwd break and i'm happy to see that things are not as volatile as when i left.
however, some things never change.
and one thing that seems to be a constant around here is the mentality of some very intelligent and knowledgeble ones (in their own minds at least) that if you are "nice" you are some how emotionally needy and/or not too bright.. i don't think the "happy people" on the board have anything against people with high iq's.
Maybe Changeling you had too long a run of negatives coming at you!
That feeling is one of absolute 'nonsense' repeatedly coming at you and having a twist to it that sucks positive energy out of your inner self.
I think if you become aware of when this starts up - this negative vacuum trying to clean out your energy source, it is a good time to close your chakras and keep them within for use in ways you can help yourself.
Helping others can then come when it will - if its not draining you - which you must always be AWARE of - in order to be who you are!
Best wishes with all of your chakras.-
so i have a decent computer.
hp, nice sony monitor.
when my dad passed i inherited a new mac.
BT broadband UK = I heard a rumour it won 2007 best support for macs.
If I wasn't so red I'd rush out and buy one!
when prophecies faila sociological perspective on failed expectation in the watchtower societyby randall wattersfrom the bethel ministries newsletter may/june 1990 (now the free minds journal) .
few aspects of the jehovah's witness movement are more fascinating to the outside observer than their predictions of the end of the world.
yet the predictions themselves are just the surface ripples of a much deeper current in the lives of the movement's adherents.
The BS bs is the most intimate forum for discussing WT dogma!
So making all meetings public speaker arrangements means you're even less likely to get to ask real questions or even awkward ones.
