So sad to hear such bad news. Deepest sympathy to all the family. Although I never met Ian personally, I found him to be a true gentleman. I really appreciated his private emails to me when I was struggling, having just left the 'truth'.
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by faundy injust to let everyone on here who knows my dad, that he is seriously ill, and unfortunately on life support.
he has renal and respiratory failure as a result of the quickest onset of pneumonia i have ever seen... it came on in the early hours of this morning.
he is waiting for an intensive care bed but the nearest one is 200 miles away.
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We The Poor- by Arundhati Roy
by frankiespeakin inwe the poor- by arundhati roy:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgpuo8nxdw0.
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eyeslice
I am a great admirer of Arandhati Roy. I have read her one and only novel, the God of Small Things, and found it an tremedous work of fiction.
I am slightly worried by her extremist views. She seems to blame all of the current problems in the world on the greed of the USA!
I used to live a few blocks away from her when I lived in New Delhi and although she rightly draws attention to the fact that the gap between rich and poor is widening, we lived in the most affluent and well off part of Delhi - so I am not sure where the title 'We the poor' comes from. I was a witness at the time and found it very hard to justify my wealth compared with the average brothers and sisters in the congregation. I fear that justice for the poor and equality are just a dream,
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JWs say its impossible for "worldly people" to be happy
by shopaholic ini've had 3 different jws tell me this over the past few weeks.
basically their thinking is non-jws are not happy and when they appear to be its not real, its not a true happiness.
according to them, non-jws use drugs, alcohol and wild sex to make themselves happy.
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Happiness is a state of mind and what this is and how to obtain is very complex.
I know a lot of happy JWs but on the other hand I have seen a lot of unhappiness. A lot of this is inflicted by the organization itself - I have seen a lot of extreme unhappiness in Judicial Committee meetings.
Sine leaving, I have given a number of current JWs a copy of the book 'Stop Thinking and Start Living' to depressed current Witnesses. Quite a different take on finding inner happiness than the guilt trip 'you must do more' dished out by the Society. -
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let me get this straight...we ARE gonna grow OLD and Die???
by oompa inwhat a total mindfluck!.....this was not supposed to happen.....and i only (completely) woke up two years ago....so accepting my own mortality has not been easy.......i currently make good enough money....but damm....now i have to think about retirement?!?!?
?....and ya....just cause i have a touch of asthma ocassionally...i wont be able to get health insurance in a few years cause i am self-employed??
?....this just fluckkin sucks.................oompa.
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jaguarbass - if you were 24 in 1971 you must be 61!
Having said that, talking about we are 'gonna grow old' - I am nearly there myself being closer to 60 now than 50!
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Vegetarianism Suggestions?
by exjdub inmy wife and i are having trouble getting past the way animals are treated for our food supply and also the unhealthy things that are introduced into our food supply.
we have also discussed the fact that if our meat, chicken, pork, and turkey was not packaged in little vacuum packed trays where we could exercise a large amount of cognitive dissonance, we would not be able to eat animals.
i was hoping someone would have some favorite suggestions for books and resources to begin the journey toward vegetarianism.
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eyeslice
I have been a vegetarian for a few years now and haven't had any dietary related health problems. I do lots of running and never get coughs or colds, which can't be bad.
I eat lots of Indian food; after all about 80% of India's 1 billion people are vegetarian so they have a lot of experience in vegetarian cooking! Indian food isn't vegan and you can get lots of recipes that include eggs and paneer (Indian cottage cheese)
I would recommend 'Easy Indian' by Das Sreedharan (available from Amazon.com). It has the most beautiful recipes for India dishes that are flavoursome rather than just 'spicy' hot. However, (1) you have to love spicy food or at least acquire the taste and (2) sometimes getting the proper ingredients can be difficult unless you have an expat-Indian community in your area.
I used to live in India and still return regularly; if you ever get a chance to visit, it is worth it for the food alone.
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Latest JW e-mail - JW witnessed to Obama
by sir82 inhere's the latest e-mail making the rounds:.
subject: brother witnesses to obama in ncthis is a picture of mark juntunen, a brother in our congregation talking.
to obama when he visited asheville nc during one of his election stomping.
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It's sad that these stories generate excitement with the Witnesses. Now if Obama had then decided to become a witness and give up worldly politics, then this would have been big news.
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1914 is on my WTCD 6398 times...but do they still use it now?
by oompa ini rarely reat the mags anymore, and do not know how to get this cd to search only current wt's.....is that even possible?
i also have only been to one meeting in two years, and i did not hear it then either....is it used in talks anymore?......this date will go the same way of all their other dates.....in the trash.........oompa
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I still get the magazines and latest publications through my wife. As Blondie has pointed out there are still references to 1914 but I do detect that the 1914 message is rapidly losing the credibility it once had.
The next few years as we approach 2014 will be very interesting. As Christ's enthronement in 1914 was with respect to sorting out earth's woes, 100 years of doing nothing will be difficult to explain. -
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Did you still attend gatherings after you faded?
by truthseeker init's hard work pretending when you're doing the fade - it's even harder when for one reason or another, you make a decision to attend a "gathering".. i found i stopped looking at people as i used to and looked at them in a different light, new light - it can never be the same again..
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Still get invited to something once a year or so.
There was a time when we either had people round or were round at others every weekend. We were, as they used to say at the core of the congregation.
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Where did you meet your lover/partner/husband/wife and..
by mtsgrad inwas it love at first sight?.
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I met my wife at a get together of some pioneer friends. Love at first sight and been together for 30 years now - and things just get better, even though she is in and I am out!
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Recession? I didn't see it this weekend. What's your take?
by restrangled ini'm just wondering if everyone has been holding back until the shopping season for christmas.
it was like everyone one was pent up waiting to shop.
(maybe paying off credit cards for months and worrying about the future).
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The problem with the current economic crisis is that many people have over spent on credit and credit cards and the like. Spending our way out of a recession if it is based on what people cannot afford doesn't seem like a good idea to me.