UNSHACKLE the CHAINS- Nice to have you here ! Welcome to freedom of mind and expression ! You are experiencing what many of us experienced as well. I was born into the JW organization from birth- I escaped 13 years ago at age 44. Hang in there , it gets better once we unhinge ourselves from the controlling policies of the WT Society. Believe me- it will feel like a ton of bricks gets lifted off of your shoulders. We are here as a support to you my friend, take care and look forward to hearing from you
flipper
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Hello
by UnshackleTheChains ini decided to join this forum as have been lurking awhile.
there are lots of interesting topics on here that appeal to me.. i have been a witness for almost 3 decades and am very disillusioned with the organisation at this time.
i am beginning to see it in a new light as i am getting older.
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Crystal Lake, Illinois, Goodbye, and Good Luck
by Phaedra ini spent the majority of my growing years in the crystal lake area, with a watchful eye under the tutleledge of the grownups whom i thought had it all figured out.
milkovetch, penkava, redman, gordon, and sterne, before the congregations split into 2 in the late 90s, i was already enamored into the truth with total belief and readying for the revelation book persecution.
then your families crumbled with red letters surfacing all around.. during and after a storm of controversies, scandals, and the like, i realized all people are people and prone to bad decisions and mistakes.
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Good point PHAEDRA- We were no better or worse than any of the allegedly " glorious ones " ( elders ) who acted like they were hot shit on a stick. But then again- we were better off and more fortunate to wake up and escape and get ourselves free from a high control organization that wanted to crush and stifle our self esteem.
NOW we can realize our full potential as actualizing human beings pursuing our dreams and interests - and NOT have to feel guilty about doing so. There's no one there to stomp us down - aside from our own impotence and lack of self esteem which we CAN rebuild after exiting the JW cult
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I had the privilege to get to know Farkel for a few years before he died. Had lunch with him several times as he lived an hour away from me. A very straightforward, straight shooting kind of a guy- honest and opinionated - yet his opinions carried weight as usually he was right on in his opinions. Very cool, dark sense of humor which I shared in common with him. We hit it off well. He spoke from experience and the school of hard knocks- as many of us have experienced as well. No fakeness or BS about him- he was real - that's what I admired the most in him. I'll be forever indebted to him as he was the first person to recommend I read George Orwell's " 1984 " which I did - and later I thanked him for it.
Farkel- Rest in peace my friend, you may have disgruntled a few unappreciative people who didn't understand your direct style- yet your blatant honesty helped make people think about just how damaging the WT organization was to us and how we needed to wake up and smell the coffee and get on with life after exiting the JW cult. You assisted many- and I count myself lucky to have known you and benefitted from your experiences
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My Story
by HereIgo inmy story: i am a 27 year old ex jw.
former ms and regular pioneer at age 19. i was very active and had many "privileges" including district assembly and circuit assembly parts etc.
as an example for young people.
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HereIgo - we camp at Richardson the weekend after 4th of July. Next summer will be the 10th annual apostafest. It is a great time - would love to see you there.
Of course your jw family would be welcome to visit our camp. (Could be quite a scene!) We could put away the voodoo dolls and stone idol altars and stuff...
We get a thread going in the winter for anyone who wants to reserve campsites, and we try to get the sites close together. Some stay in hotels, it's not too far to go to Camp Richardson. Some just come for the day. It's totally laid back - everyone does their own thing.
Mrs. Flipper
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My Story
by HereIgo inmy story: i am a 27 year old ex jw.
former ms and regular pioneer at age 19. i was very active and had many "privileges" including district assembly and circuit assembly parts etc.
as an example for young people.
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Welcome, HereIgo. Have enjoyed your contributions here.
So sorry that your family shuns you. They are missing out.
Seems like you came out of the jws young and with your wits about you, and have a wonderful new family.
Every July there is an "apostafest" campout at South Lake Tahoe - all ages, families with kids. Hope you can make it someday!
Mrs. Flipper
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Steve Hassan. Can some one verify if this is true.
by joe134cd inhttps://culteducation.com/group/1289-general-information/8227-disclaimer-regarding-steve-hassan.html.
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flipper
DATA-DOG- Hassan's advice STILL works if you just read the books and apply the techniques to escape mind control. You don't have to pay for it- information access is free .A person can borrow the books or buy them. No need to go to one of his sessions or hire his services to benefit from the ideas. Therapists, psychiatrists earn money based on others misfortunes- physicians and pharmacy companies do as well- if a cult exit counselor makes money off helping others save their loved ones from a cult - hey he's not alone.
Lots of religions, new age guru's who offer nothing of benefit make money off of followers who believe in " a pie in the sky " with no value- at least Hassan is offering something of value here. We live in an economic society where business owners ARE going to earn a living doing what they're trained to do
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What would be the perfect song to introduce a JW comedy sketch?
by usualusername1 ini have no idea.... .
any ideas will help.... .
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Who Starts the Great Tribulation - Jehovah or Satan?
by berrygerry inwho starts the great tribulation - jehovah or satan?.
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flipper
Neither . It never happens. It's a fictitious , imaginary battle created by many religions to control people through fear and guilt
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Are we victims of abuse? Should we even think of ourselves that way?
by nicolaou inabuse is such a serious word and i'd hate to use it lightly so if anyone reading this has suffered physical or sexual abuse please know that i absolutely do not equate religious abuse with your suffering.
that being said, many of us were lied to and manipulated for decades.
this cultic 'abuse' has borne fruit in shattered relationships, broken families and estranged children.
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FREEMINDFADE- Exactly, we are all survivors. Very true. JW life gave us lemons- so after exiting we make kick -ass lemonade ! LOL
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Are we victims of abuse? Should we even think of ourselves that way?
by nicolaou inabuse is such a serious word and i'd hate to use it lightly so if anyone reading this has suffered physical or sexual abuse please know that i absolutely do not equate religious abuse with your suffering.
that being said, many of us were lied to and manipulated for decades.
this cultic 'abuse' has borne fruit in shattered relationships, broken families and estranged children.
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flipper
Hell yes we were all abused as JW's. Those who don't want to admit that- are sticking their heads in the sand and lying to themselves - farting in denial.
We were coerced to believe we would " live forever " which is a lie ( check obituaries and Ancestry.com - no one has EVER lived forever- everybody dies. )
So emotionally we were lied to as " eternal life " was held as a carrot in front of us to manipulate us to believe the OTHER BS doctrines the WT Society taught. And if we disagreed or doubted we were to be looked down upon, cut off from associating with other JW's who believed the lies. That's mental and emotional abuse.
If THAT wasn't enough a good number of us were either physically abused by being murdered by the WT Society for not taking life saving blood transfusions because we followed their orders , being sexually molested by elders yet it wasn't reported to police authorities, or in the case of JW's in Malawi being murdered for not buying a 25 cent political party card following orders from WT Society leaders. Not to mention thousands of suicides due to the shunning policy of the WT Society. So physical abuse is rampant in the WT Society.
WT Society is a criminal organization which is guilty of crimes against mankind in a mental, emotional, and physical manner in which they've duped millions of JW's into trusting them to deliver them peace and life eternal. WT Society has delivered nothing but pain, shattered dreams, illusions, divided families, and death all for the sake of keeping a money grubbing organization alive that masquerades as a religion. Clear enough picture ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper