Posts by flipper

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Well, I asked a question and his answer blew me away

by Lost his mind in

first time, been lurking for years, but i asked my husband who has been studying for 20 plus years if he has ever questioned those that were "teaching" him.

blew my mind.

i ask him all the questions that you have asked yourself, but he will not ask them.

flipper

To our new poster "Lost his mind" - welcome from Mrs. Flipper. We would love to see you at Tahoe.

We get apologists here occasionally trying to defend the watchtower - I'd like to see your thread not get derailed by it. But it is interesting to see that mentality at work.

Myself, I was never a JW, and I see some of this stuff from a different perspective. Brother J. seemed to be talking to you the way a lot of JW men talk to women. And where the majority of posters here will offer support, the apologists are usually trying to convince everyone, including themselves, to stick to the old cult beliefs.

Yeah, I guess I get wound up about that stuff. Anyway, welcome - wish you better times ahead. PM if you'd like to talk. Mrs. Flip

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Well, I asked a question and his answer blew me away

by Lost his mind in

first time, been lurking for years, but i asked my husband who has been studying for 20 plus years if he has ever questioned those that were "teaching" him.

blew my mind.

i ask him all the questions that you have asked yourself, but he will not ask them.

flipper

LOST HIS MIND- Thanks for the further information regarding your husband. It sounds as if he looks to his sister and brother in law as parents so this listening to their every direction may have deeper ties inside him than only the JW cult- which is bad enough. He may have insecurities tied to listening to them as his replacement parents. I feel for you- you definitely have your hands full. But ultimately the decision is up to you what you end up doing. We are here as a support to you. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Well, I asked a question and his answer blew me away

by Lost his mind in

first time, been lurking for years, but i asked my husband who has been studying for 20 plus years if he has ever questioned those that were "teaching" him.

blew my mind.

i ask him all the questions that you have asked yourself, but he will not ask them.

flipper

BROTHER JERAMY- Telling a new board member who has experienced difficulties from her studying JW husband and fanatic JW relatives that if she leaves she is, " very controlling " - is VERY controlling of you to tell her this. It's her own damned personal life and who the hell do you think YOU are to tell her to leave or NOT to leave just because you feel she should not challenge her husbands beliefs or her JW relatives beliefs ? It's really none of your damned business or place to be telling this newer board member what to do or HOW she should feel. You really ARE coming off like the WT cult leaders who we often criticize here

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Richard Ashe Court Deposition - " Let elders handle child abuse- don't talk about it "

by flipper in

as some of you know i was given pdf files of much of the conti and lopez child abuse court cases and asked from a friend to peruse through it and post some excerpts on the board here that may have been missed or not addressed in the pbs newshour report or the abc news nightline report.

so after going through this richard ashe testimony i feel i found something quite interesting that exposes the real attitudes of the wt society leaders towards child abuse and the attitudes wt leaders put into it's appointed men's minds as well.

the viewpoint that richard ashe displays is repeated in elders throughout thousands of jw congregations on this planet.

flipper

WIFIBANDIT- So it seems like Richard Ashe IS very involved in upper echelon things going on in WT land. Being on the service committee and all. But man oh man, just reading his court testimony you can still tell he is so freaking mind controlled it's pathetic.

DATA-DOG- Good point you bring out. I wonder what kind of backlash he is getting from his WT superiors for his court testimony ? And like you say if they are throwing him under the bus I wonder how they are doing that ? I'm sure he's just a fall guy for the big boys of the WT Society. Sacrificial lamb as you will

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Hello, just introducing myself

by Miss Behaving in

jw
friends

i've just signed up two days ago, but i've been lurking for about a year and a half.

here's my story if you're interested:.

my parents converted when they were in their first semester of college.

flipper

MISS BEHAVING- Please check your PM's - I sent you a message. Thanks ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Hello, just introducing myself

by Miss Behaving in

jw
friends

i've just signed up two days ago, but i've been lurking for about a year and a half.

here's my story if you're interested:.

my parents converted when they were in their first semester of college.

flipper

Like the poster On The Way Out printed in his comment the link to the July 10th through 12th South Lake Tahoe BBQ and apostafest- you are cordially invited to come Missbehaving . Lots of laid back, easygoing ex-JW's there who will offer their hand of friendship to you. In a informal, relaxed atmosphere. We'd love to have you join us - you'll receive lots of support and understanding. If you can make it please come ! My wife and I live about an hour and a half north of Lake Tahoe so I'll PM you our phone number if you'd like some details . Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Well, I asked a question and his answer blew me away

by Lost his mind in

first time, been lurking for years, but i asked my husband who has been studying for 20 plus years if he has ever questioned those that were "teaching" him.

blew my mind.

i ask him all the questions that you have asked yourself, but he will not ask them.

flipper

LOST HIS MIND- Welcome to the board ! May I ask : What is it about your husbands relationship with his sister that makes him feel that she has all the answers to life or that he cannot even question her or her husband ? Do they both have some kind of mesmerizing control over him and they use the JW's to exercise that control ? What's the background of your husband's relationship with his sister ? Just needing a little more info. Thanks, I'm sorry you are in such a challenging position

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Abuse of Power - Today's WT Study, May 10, 2015 (w2015 3/15)

by Oubliette in

ok, so i only read the wt study articles to keep up with the indoctrination that my two "still-in" children are being subjected to.

when i read this in today's wt i nearly blew a gasket: .

[naboth] held to jehovahs law in the face of horrific abuse of power.

flipper

OUBLIETTE- Very good point. I'm with you. Only main abuse of power I've suffered from in my life has been at the hands of the WT Society and their appointed minions as well. WT Society leaders are so narrow minded and arrogant in their views that they would NEVER view themselves as abusing power - they themselves have a " persecution complex " a mile long and they look at the " world " as " persecuting " them - the WT leaders ! I believe they use this pretend " persecution complex " as a marketing tool in mind control to lure rank & file JW's to side with them in a " it's us against the world " syndrome thus blinding JW's to the fact that GB members could ever ABUSE power - they have the view that THEY are abused by the world. It's such a narrow view and misleading indeed.

This abuse of power by WT leaders is one reason I keep banging the drum on the child abuse issue. I tell everybody I can about the WT leaders own abuse of power. What was the old saying, " power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely " ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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I had sex with my wife but now he’s my brother.

by John Aquila in

golden age 1930 apr 2 p.446.

question: will husband and wife live together after the resurrection is completed, if both are in harmony with god?.

the most that we know is that here will be no children born during the last 100 years of the millinnium (isa.

flipper

I swear to God when I first saw that title " I had sex with my wife but now he's my brother " - I thought you meant your wife had a sex change operation- seriously I did

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Richard Ashe Court Deposition - " Let elders handle child abuse- don't talk about it "

by flipper in

as some of you know i was given pdf files of much of the conti and lopez child abuse court cases and asked from a friend to peruse through it and post some excerpts on the board here that may have been missed or not addressed in the pbs newshour report or the abc news nightline report.

so after going through this richard ashe testimony i feel i found something quite interesting that exposes the real attitudes of the wt society leaders towards child abuse and the attitudes wt leaders put into it's appointed men's minds as well.

the viewpoint that richard ashe displays is repeated in elders throughout thousands of jw congregations on this planet.

flipper

IOWN MYLIFE- Marina- what a really great example you give of the Japanese soldier who would not surrender being compared to JW's that are still deeply indoctrinated. I totally agree. It's just beyond their comprehension that the GB could ever be wrong, could ever be criminal, could ever have ulterior motives for " using " the rank & file JW's like they do. It's almost like JW's have to get knocked in their heads with injustices personally to be able to face reality. And even then- some of them won't admit it.

ZEB- If I'm not mistaken Richard Ashe is on the service committee at Bethel ( I may be wrong ) - but he was testifying in court about how the WT Society handles child abuse cases. WT was pointing to him as an " expert " - but I believe attorney Irwin Zalkin shredded him to pieces.

CHA CHING- Thanks for verifying that , yeah I thought he was in the service department.

ARWEN - You are so very welcome ! Hey man- access to information is everything ! You know ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper