Posts by flipper

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Neanderthals - Meet Your Ancestors

by Earnest in

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tonight (sunday, 13th may) at 20:00 on bbc 2 ... for neanderthal believers, agnostics and deniers.. this first programme in a two-part series investigates what neanderthals looked like and and how they lived in their ice age world.

it turns out that almost everything we thought we knew about them is wrong.

they weren't hunched, grunting, knuckle-dragging ape-men at all.

flipper

My DNA test I took on 23&Me DNA website said I'm 3.1 % Neanderthal, which makes me 98 % more Neanderthal than the rest of mankind. My son is 2.7 % . Only 2 % of humans have more Neanderthal in them than me ! I was in the top tier percentage wise of my over 1,000 relatives or distant cousins on the 23 & Me website !

I play a mean game of Scrabble with my wife . Animals , wild & domestic love me to pieces. I talk with birds and they talk back. My instincts of smell are very acute. First time Mrs. Flipper & I went on a date, I smelled her. Fortunately it didn't freak her out, actually kind of turned her on- hey we're still together after 12 years !

So we Neanderthals can be lots of fun ! I play guitar, sing & howl at the moon, enjoy romance with my wife, love hiking in the woods, and growing a kick ass vegetable garden. I mean- how much more earthy could this hippy Neanderthal be ? Fortunately I do believe in taking great showers daily and I use deodorant , so the human side of me outweighs the Neanderthal side . lol. I raise my glass and toast all of you Neanderthals out there ! Peace out, mr. Flipper

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Is the GB guilty of crimes against humanity?

by Chook in

the changing of doctrine that cost brothers their lives or future happiness .

told flock to get no education .told sisters for one hundred years that having children wasn’t gods priority .

deaths resulted from no organ transplants and blood fractions.

flipper

I second what Dogisgod stated. Very true.

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Is the GB guilty of crimes against humanity?

by Chook in

the changing of doctrine that cost brothers their lives or future happiness .

told flock to get no education .told sisters for one hundred years that having children wasn’t gods priority .

deaths resulted from no organ transplants and blood fractions.

flipper

Yes they are. It's a criminal organization masquerading as a religion

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Overlapping Generations

by JRK in

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i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.

it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.

she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.

flipper

FINKELSTEIN- " WTS intentionally brainwashes people strategically..... by using the imposition of FEAR and PUNISHMENT. " Excellent point .

Exactly my point earlier. Totally agree. And that's one of the huge reasons these JW's won't leave the org in spite of assassine, ridiculously insane teachings - they are controlled by WT leaders through either an imagined fear of destruction at an imaginary " Armageddon " - or - they are in fear of losing their entire social network of friends and family due to the shunning policy

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So what's this special meeting all about?

by purrpurr in

any guesses?.

flipper

I second Punk's comment. Peace out, Mr. Flippper

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Overlapping Generations

by JRK in

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i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.

it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.

she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.

flipper

JRK- Hey my dear friend, saw this thread when I woke up this morning. Great thread, good points you make. As you stated both for your mom , and for myself with dealing with my JW parents when they were alive - they too had so much invested in the WT organization - that it would have virtually destroyed their perception of what they considered to be " reality " for 60 years if they had seen through the overlapping generation theory in their mid to late 80's.

That being said I do believe that the majority of JW's stay in this organization out of FEAR indoctrinated into them by the GB and WT leaders and writers. The JW's that still believe in it stay in out of fear of being destroyed at the imaginary " Armageddon " - the JW's that don't believe in it and think it's a crock of shit - STILL stay in the organization out of FEAR of losing family members if they left. It's still the element of FEAR controlling all of these JW's - just fear of different things whether they believe - or not still.

Kind of how I see it with what little contact I have with JW's these days, which is just very rare talk with JW relatives once in a blue moon. Take care buddy, peace & hugs, Mr. Flipper

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How do you feel about the elders?

by Lost in the fog in

oh dear, i recently made a comment about an elder being dogmatic.

and one of his best buddies sent me a wt article to help me realign my mind or something.

this is where reality separates from fantasy and fiction.

flipper

A good number of the elders I used to know while I was a JW years ago looked at themselves as " legends in their own mind " . Enamored with the position, power & control they wielded over rank & file JW's. And enamored with themselves.

I used to call some of them on their shit as well- as you might expect I was never appointed an elder due to voicing my opinion and for speaking out against injustices I was an eyewitness to in their actions.

My view of them ? They could sit on their thumb and rotate for all I cared. They caused enough pain for many lifetimes in my family

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Motherly Love, that "Unbreakable Bond"

by Simon in

my father died a couple of months ago.

he'd been ill for some time and had many health scares and heart troubles over the years but always managed to keep on going.

then one time he didn't.. i'm glad i got to know him again and spend some more time with him after so many years missed because of the wts but those years will always be lost forever.

flipper

SIMON- My wife and I send our deepest condolences to you on the loss of your dad. I've lost both my parents in the last year and a half, and it's always a tough situation. We wish you and your family peace during this difficult time and going forward. Sincerely, Mr. & Mrs. Flipper

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advice please/data protection

by Phoebe in

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friends

i have just received an email from an elder's wife regarding the new data protection laws.

between the lines it sounds like she has been asked to contact me.. she says they 'don't want to leave me out' so they want me to fill out the form as 'i'm still part of the congregation'.

also, my blood card needs updating, apparently.. the elder in charge will be in contact.. obviously, i'm not doing either, but what do i do?

flipper

PHOEBE- I agree with all of the other posters views here. Let's never forget this fact- most JW's are nosy busybody's who do not honor personal, private boundaries of their fellow JW's - or anyone else's boundaries for that matter. And what's the reason they act that way ? It comes down from the top of this WT organization as we are so abundantly seeing right now with this data retrieving crap going on towards JW's.

Any advantage or access to personal information that gives WT leaders and WT legal department power & control over your private information is always to THEIR legal advantage - not the rank & file JW's advantage. Just more methods of control. You are smart not to comply with this demand put on you. Good luck, keep your freedom from them dear to you ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Suggestions how to fade out/ changing congregation and loosing your files

by JustHuman14 in

i wasn't so sure how to add title in this topic.

i went back to the borg, for family reasons and the concept was after a year or so to fade out.

i m into the fade out process now.

flipper

JUST HUMAN- Just stop attending period. If you're not giving anyone account of your actions anyway- just totally go rogue and get off the JW /elder radar by not having any communication whatsoever with your former elders, congregation - anything ! No need to get a card from them or anything ! Like Paul Simon said in " 50 Ways to leave your lover " - " just drop off the key lee, and set yourself free ! " Easy as that.

You will find that the stress level in your life goes away even more when you totally cut yourself off from the congregation and elders who kept check on you. It's how I did it , been out 15 years now . My JW parents still kept in touch with me when they were alive, we just didn't talk about JW topics. You might try this and see how it works for you. Good luck to you,take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper