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  Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians, why do so many ex JW's deny this?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.

  they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.

  they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?

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  I'll give two reasons in a single post of why they aren't " Christians ".

  THEY don't allow life saving blood transfusions.

  They dont' protect children from child abuse.

  If you disagree- you are in denial. Peace out, MR.FLIPPER
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians, why do so many ex JW's deny this?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.

  they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.

  they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?

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  If Jehovah's witnesses are " Christians " as they claim- then my left testicle is a Brazil nut.

  Peace out, MR. flipper
  
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  Is disassociating worth the hassle?

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been out now for 6 years but lately i have been giving some thought to da.

  i just kind of feel that chapter in my life is still open and for some reason i feel like da'ing might close that chapter but i'm not entirely sure.

  im not df either, when i left i basically faded and disappeared.

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  HERELGO- I think it's different for different folks depending on each person's situation. I haven't disassociated because I have an adult JW daughter and a grandson in the mix who I wouldn't be able to have any contact with if I DAed myself.

  That being said - if you don't have ANY relatives or friends who are JW's and you no longer keep in contact with them anyway- I feel a person could disassociate. But like Blues Brother said - if the elders are leaving you alone anyway and not bothering you- it might be unwise to put yourself back on their radar after being out 6 years anyway. There's no reason to give these clowns any more power over us or there's no reason to play by their rules and definitions of contact if we don't have to. So it's a personal decision. I always had so much shit thrown on me from the elders in 44 years in the cult- I just don't want any more hassles in my life. I prefer peace of mind. Hope that gives you some things to consider. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
  
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  Another "good" elder might be getting the axe....

  by humblepotato in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so our congregation is full of hardliner elders, 3 of them, who are not gentle, kind or loving.. people have either moved away or quit trying because one elder inparticular was going to drive them crazy with all his rules and nit picking and being righteous over much.

  (and he is pissed that he hasn't been accepted to the school.

  hmmm, i wonder why!).

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  " Why does the Watchtower shoot themselves in the foot like this ? "

  Because WT leaders WANT the jerk elders to rule the congregations to keep rank & file JW's in line. WT leaders do NOT care about " kindness ", " love ", or " compassion " . They only care about obedience , being rigid, and not respecting personal boundaries of JW's. So these days - kind elders who show love get left in the dust and are a minority- sadly. This is a criminal organization run by criminals- should we expect them to do the RIGHT thing ? Not going to happen
  
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  Introduction

  by robrog8999 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello all.... i am new here so i figured i'd make a quick post introducing myself and giving a brief intro as to who i am and what i'm here for... as well as to hopefully meet others.. so, i made a profile and in it i gave a pretty detailed explanation as to my intent here and exactly why i decided to participate in the boards.

  in case you don't read it, i'll give a brief summary.

  the name is robert.

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  flipper

  Rob- Welcome to the board, hope you enjoy your stay here. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
  
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  New, but needed to vent- thank you :-)

  by Danni Jackson in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i discovered your website this morning as i was trying to find some information about 'marking'.

  you see a very close friend of mine was 'marked' earlier this week and as i know the ins and outs of the situation (as we are close friends) i disregarded the talk immediately as i know my friend is obviously having issues but is no way a 'danger' to anybody else's spiritual health.

  basically they are dating a non-believer- hence the talk.

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  Danni- There is a lot of judgmental attitudes and hypocrisy within the Jehovah's Witness organization and you are just skimming the surface and seeing it for the first time. These attitudes start at the top with the governing body. Google on the Internet " Gilbert Campos Child abuse trial San Diego California " and you'll see how WT leaders have been hiding child abuse information from the courts and are being penalized by the courts for refusing to testify and supply needed child abuse information. You are sadly in a criminal organization and the sooner you research this and wake up to that fact- the sooner you'll be able to move on in your life and find real happiness. Take care, we're here as a support to you
  
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  Struggling a bit, guess it's to be expected...........

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  throughout this process since my wife and i disassociated just over a year ago i've been pretty positive.

  focusing on my new life, new friends, having fun, and living a good life.

  it's been great.

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  Dubstepped- Hang in there buddy. I was born and raised in the JW's got out 13 years ago in 2003 at age 44 finally. It's not an easy process moving on, but what you're feeling is totally normal for what we all went through with the mind control and indoctrination that the WT Society drilled into our brains.

  It gets better I promise you. The more time goes by without being at those insane meetings and the further you get away from the indoctrination our PTSD will improve. With time you'll be able to pick up hobbies and enjoyable life activities that will assist you in moving on from the cult. I took up guitar playing and songwriting over 5 years ago and it's been a huge help in my healing experience. So much emotional power and healing forces within music.

  As time goes by hanging out with non- JW's and ex-JW's who are supportive you will gradually find activities that will help you heal from within, but emphasis on gradually. Don't pressure yourself to feel guilty about the way you feel- how you feel is natural as many of us felt as well. With time the JW cult will have less and less of an impact on your inner psyche and your life will be re-filled with positive activities that bring you happier and better memories. Give yourself time, be your own best friend. We were all taught as JW's to " hate " ourselves or not value our authentic selves and we had low self esteem. It takes time to rebuild that self esteem back up again. You'll do fine, you'll make it my friend. You're a cool guy and I for one really enjoy your contributions to this board. Please know you have friends here as a support and I offer my friendship as well. Take care, any time you'd like to chat, I'm always here, O.K. ? Been there, experienced this stuff myself. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
  
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  Trump supporters want to repeal 19th amendment

  by keyser soze in

  1. social
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  seriously, you can't make this shit up.

  and these same people will accuse hillary of rigging the election after she wins:.

  http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trump-supporters-repeal-19th-amendment-article-1.2828571.

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  This whole election scene is so surreal - I'm like WTF is happening in my country?

  There is this angry and emotional backlash of people who long for the 1950s - white men at the top, commie hunts, women in their place, everybody churchy, and those doggone ethnics in their place at the bottom of the heap. They seem to really resent that their little world has been changed.

  They don't give a shit that Trump is mentally unbalanced.

  Hillary is not really that much shadier than at least half of politicians and the 1% who are running things anyway... At least she has some intelligence.

  Still going to vote green.

  Mrs. Flipper
  
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  Hey everyone

  by coffee_black in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  popping in to say hi.... been away from the forum for a long time.... had some serious health issues starting at the beginning of this year.

  on the mend now, and getting back into the swing of things.... great to be alive!.

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  flipper

  Coffee Black- Great to have you back, and have you back healthy ! Hope things are going better for you. Take care, Peace out, mr. flipper
  
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  Hypothetical: If WTS Reformed...?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as i said in the subject line, this is purely hypothetical.

  what do you think would happen if the wtbts leaders decided to reboot some of the organization's more controversial practices.

  not that they would deny their claims to be jehovah's earthly representatives, nor the key elements of their eschatology; but in administrative outlooks.

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  There is no reformation for a criminal organization like the WT Society