Nice job Greybeard. Powerful lyrics but songwriters need to openly express themselves. I've written several songs about gaining freedom from the WT organization that are quite direct as well. Leave no stone unturned my friend. You are healing yourself in a therapeutic manner and we never know who else we may help to heal in the process. Feel no guilt, feel no fear, feel, live, and write about freedom of mind. I've got a song right now cooking in the oven titled " Tear off These Chains " I'm currently working on. Music is a healing force my friend continue to heal yourself and others ! Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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New lyrics to a song, are they too strong? looking for feedback
by Greybeard ini’m addicted to love.
i’m addicted to the big o .
so all you hypocrites .
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Hey ya'll! My first post. Please help. In need of advice/comfort.
by Stepford Wife inhey ya'll!
i have been lurking for years on this site and others but never had the courage to post anything.
actually i was afraid of posting on an apostate site in the event i was wrong.
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Stepford Wife - You certainly have your hands full- and that's putting it mildly. I agree with many here who say NOT to meet with the elders. They are trained by the WT Society to coerce you into a corner and box you in until they get you to spill the beans with information they can nail you with so as to judge you worthy of a judicial committee. It's true that they will TRY to find something to use against you in order to justify bringing you up for a JC meeting. So don't meet with them, just tell them you are doing fine on your own and that if you ever need their help- you will let them know in the future.
Also- Seriously think about your husband crying if you took a life saving blood transfusion . I mean WTF ? That tells you all you need to know about where the WT organization is in HIS priorities in life and the fact that he's more concerned about losing his elders position than his wife losing her life ! Did I say the WT Society is a high control , mind control organization - if I didn't I just did. This organization steals away ANY authentic, humane, empathetic personality that people have and replaces it with a WT Society first personality that loses all manners , civility , or ethical treatment of others. Your husband is seriously controlled.
If you intend to make your marriage work in spite of your differences I would suggest not talking to the elders and even staying low on your husbands radar concerning talking to him about your doubts. If you don't World war 3 may begin and your marriage will be on a short leash. Unless of course you WANT to blow the whole thing up- then speak your mind and talk away . Your future is in your hands to some extent. We are here as a support to you my friend, it's not easy I know- been there done that. Been out of the Witnesses going on 13 years now- happiest times of my life . Hang in there, take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Books I read when I deprogrammed
by OrphanCrow inblondie suggested someone start a thread with a list of books that are valuable to read when exiting the jws.. i will start.. i left the jws way back in the early 70s and didn't actually deprogram until into the 80s.. one of the first books i read was "the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses" by gary and heather botting.
canadian exjws from calagary.
an excellent book and one that still resonates with young people today.
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I agree with Sail Away and another poster who stated Steve Hassan's 3 books really helped them. In fact I would say that Steve Hassan's books helped me move on from the JW cult even more so than Ray Franz's books- Franz's books just confirmed my suspicions about what was going on behind the scenes at WT headquarters- Hassan's books helped me to understand HOW the WT Society was able to pull off the mind control over us- helped me understand the whole psychology behind mind control.
I feel Hassan's books are a MUST read for every exiting JW to thoroughly understand how they were duped . It also helps a person understand that ANYBODY can be mind controlled and assisted me to forgive myself for taking until age 44 to wake up and exit.
Steve Hassan's 3 books are : 1. Combatting Cult Mind Control copyright 1990 2. Releasing the Bonds- Empowering People to Think for Themselves copyright 2000 3. Freedom of Mind - Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs.
I feel that if more exiting JW's and DFed JW's read Hassan's books they would be less inclined to go back to the WT organization Jehovah's Witnesses as they would see the reality of WT mind control techniques and be aware of how they were deceived. I find it amazing many times that an ex-JW can still be under WT mind control YEARS after leaving the JW cult. To me- it always comes back to not informing or educating themselves about the reality of how serious WT mind control has infected their minds. Once a person is aware of it and admits it- only then can they move on in life- in my opinion
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For Martin Luther King's Day: Freedom Songs
by flipper inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpubgcng6tw.
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TALESIN- Hey thanks for posting the song from Tom Waits my friend ! You're the best ! Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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For Martin Luther King's Day: Freedom Songs
by flipper inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpubgcng6tw.
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Trying to post the song " Road to Peace " by Tom Waits if anybody is able to do it without offending copyright issues ? Thanks. Jesus freaking Christ -
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For Martin Luther King's Day: Freedom Songs
by flipper inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpubgcng6tw.
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Shoot. Trying to post this Tom Waits song . I'll try again.
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For Martin Luther King's Day: Freedom Songs
by flipper inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpubgcng6tw.
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All shunning soon to end
by poopie inthis is just a first step clapping.
it's like the fed one quarter bases point at a time.
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JW Expressions We Hate
by Socrateswannabe ini was browsing through stuff on jw.org recently and ran across some expressions that really grate on my nerves: loyal love, loving-care, and loving-kindness, as in: "please exercise loving-kindness toward your servant.
" who talks like that?
they must be relics of the fred franz era.
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Oh, oh ! Here's another one :
Calling people by their last name only like Brother Flipper instead of using first names. Pissed the hell out of me
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JW Expressions We Hate
by Socrateswannabe ini was browsing through stuff on jw.org recently and ran across some expressions that really grate on my nerves: loyal love, loving-care, and loving-kindness, as in: "please exercise loving-kindness toward your servant.
" who talks like that?
they must be relics of the fred franz era.
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Good thread. Here are some that annoyed the hell out of me :
" The friends "
" We are a people for special possession "
" Jehovah's people are special "
" reach out for 'privileges ' to show how you are advancing with Jehovahs 'progressive ' organization "
" it's a privilege to be 'used ' by Jehovah "
All of these just give me the freaking ibie jeebies now when I think of them.
In hindsight- who in the hell wants to be " used ' by an organization- then discarded like trash ? Somone who is mind controlled- that's who . Peace out, Mr. Flipper