Posts by flipper

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What made you turn atheist or agnostic?

by LevelThePlayingField in

if you were a jw and are now an atheist or agnostic, what was the tipping point that made you turn to it?.

the reason i ask is i have noticed that many who leave the jw's seem to turn to atheism, versus still having some form of a faith.

have many of you given up on god first or have you had atheistic views first and then found atheism to be true.

flipper

Never been JW, but was raised with Catholic family and some friends had other religions.

Probably ages 8-12 I noticed religious hypocrites (spent a few years in Catholic grammar school). The kindest, sanest and most honest family I knew never even talked about religion or God. This was my best friend's family - my racist Catholic family were uncomfortable about them because they are Mexican, that made another impression on me about religion.

Also my child mind figured God was like the Easter Bunny, Santa, Tooth Fairy. I remember thinking they were going to keep it secret from kids until high school. I was considered a weird kid.

And that God was so mean and twisted. Creating a world of animals that eat each other? Hell? War? I could see that the religious adults were fearful of God, and I wondered why they believed it, and knew to keep my mouth shut about it.

Now, I don't know what the hell is out there, but it 's not likely anything from these crazy fairy tales. I believe in "Do the right thing"

Mrs. Flipper

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The Donald knows the JW's are the truth

by life is to short in

i swear you just cannot make this stuff up.

i just heard from an older sister in the hall that donald's trump son-in-law bought part of the brooklyn heights compound, i think she said the 25 building but what ever.

she than went on to say and to quote her "the donald knows it's the truth.

flipper

FAYEDUNAWAY- Your statement, " the majority of Americans in their rational minds would never elect him ( Trump ) . "

What makes you think that the majority of Americans HAVE rational minds ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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The Donald knows the JW's are the truth

by life is to short in

i swear you just cannot make this stuff up.

i just heard from an older sister in the hall that donald's trump son-in-law bought part of the brooklyn heights compound, i think she said the 25 building but what ever.

she than went on to say and to quote her "the donald knows it's the truth.

flipper

LIFE IS TOO SHORT- I think this poor lady is crazier than " The Donald " - and that's pretty crazy ! What this horrid cult does to people's minds ! It's crazy ! it turns brains into silly putty

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Hello

by Lost and adrift in

.just plucking up the courage to introduce myself....living in ireland but from the uk originally.

..drifted away due to depression (from all things truth related lol and bereavements and my m.s husband cheating on me and leaving !!

) few years ago but they recently hunted me down (they contacted me the day my other half was diagnosed with cancer!

flipper

LOST and ADRIFT- I'm so sorry you've been treated horribly by these elders and this mind control cult. Please know that we are here for you, O.K. ? Hang in there, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Hello

by Darryl in

just joining this site i'm not going to give you my personal history because you already know it, you lived it.

anyway been df'd for about 18 years just curious are there any people out there from the richmond va area.

flipper

Hello Darryl ! Nice to have you here on the board ! I'm from Northern California but I'm sure some folks from the Virginia area will respond shortly I'm sure. Good to have you here my friend. We are all survivors here indeed. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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We (in the 21st century) are not living in the biblical "last days."

by quincemyles in

all that jesus spoke about in matthew 24 was fulfilled in the first century.

all of jesus' warnings in that passage were relevant only to natural jews.

(mat.

flipper

" WE are not living in the biblical " last days ". Exactly . I totally agree ! Honesty is so refreshing ! Thanks for the thread - a breath of fresh air ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Where the real abuse lies.

by ctrwtf in

jw
friends

let me start with a disclaimer: i am in no way minimizing the horrific crimes done to children by pedophiles.

i'm not downplaying the number of lives lost due to the blood issue, or hearts broken because of shunning.

i do not want to discount the feelings of those who have come to the end of their lives with expectations of paradise postponed.. but to me the biggest atrocity committed by this awful cult is raising children from a small age to believe that soon god will kill billions of people.

flipper

CTRWTF- Really good thread, thanks for posting these thoughts. Being born and raised in it myself until I escaped at age 44 over 12 years ago- I agree that it's a really awful thing to teach children from birth that they are " a people for special possession " or " are Jehovah's privileged people " . The WT leaders thus indoctrinate people from the womb to think that their shit doesn't stink- and that all other people in the " world " are inferior to them. It's a disgusting way to train people to feel that they are better than everyone else.

To this day I cannot even stomach talking very much to my 90 year old JW elder dad ( he's been a JW since 1951 ) because he views himself as an elitist. Better than everyone else. To me the REAL crime committed here is from the WT Society leaders who INDOCTRINATE and MANIPULATE JW's to think this way ! It's like they truly believe they are freaking royalty when they are only normal humans like you and me. They shit brown like me and you and they bleed red like me and you.

Pardon my bluntness - but having been raised by a City Overseer elder dad who thought he was freaking King Tut of JW Egypt or acted like royalty of Kings of England - I have little patience with the leaders of this dangerous mind control cult the WT Society and any excuses they make for their unethical and barbaric behavior . The greatest crime is the manipulation in totality that the WT leaders have pulled on JW's and the public for offering false promises and delusions for 136 years now in which JW's get NOTHING in return for their time spent. All mind control cults can NEVER deliver on any fake promises they make

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The Donald knows the JW's are the truth

by life is to short in

i swear you just cannot make this stuff up.

i just heard from an older sister in the hall that donald's trump son-in-law bought part of the brooklyn heights compound, i think she said the 25 building but what ever.

she than went on to say and to quote her "the donald knows it's the truth.

flipper

Evidently the Donald has been directed by holy spirit to choose Stephen Lett as his vice president.

Mrs. Flipper

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Where the real abuse lies.

by ctrwtf in

jw
friends

let me start with a disclaimer: i am in no way minimizing the horrific crimes done to children by pedophiles.

i'm not downplaying the number of lives lost due to the blood issue, or hearts broken because of shunning.

i do not want to discount the feelings of those who have come to the end of their lives with expectations of paradise postponed.. but to me the biggest atrocity committed by this awful cult is raising children from a small age to believe that soon god will kill billions of people.

flipper

When I first started learning what the Watchtower was all about, and they still were coming to our door occasionally, I wanted to shake them by the shoulders and shout - don't subject your children to this cult!

Now Flipper has a grandchild, born in October. Breaks my heart to think how he will be indoctrinated by his fanatical JW family. (Has already been taken to meetings and door to door.)

The mother already told Flipper he can see the baby IF he comes back to meetings.

They are a horrible, abusive cult. And this is what the children are taught.

Mrs. Flip

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Another Trey Bundy Article on Reveal: "Jehovah’s Witnesses leaders say they don’t protect sexual abusers"

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/24232/.

jehovahs witnesses leaders say they dont protect sexual abusers.

by trey bundy / december 21, 2015 .

flipper

Good lord - that pile of excuses is so incredibly stooopid. This is the kind of stuff that makes me think someone is sabotaging WT from the inside.

But I know that if we showed the list of WT responses to Flipper's parents, siblings or daughters we would most likely get their usual programmed response "Well, it really does make sense when you think about it."

Yeah, like they ever do think....

Mrs. Flipper