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  [Day 8 - 14/8]Governing Body, Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commissions On Child Sexual Abuse, Australia. + VIDEO

  by C0ntr013r in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the big day finally arrived!

  these amazing royal commission proceedings are available on youtube :).

  part 1 has been uploaded and part 2 will soon be available.. part 1:.

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  Wanted to bump up GB member Jackson's testimony if some had not seen or heard it on you tube. Peace out, let's save the children, Mr. Flipper
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  Petition for U.S. AG investigation.

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  not sure if anything will come of this.

  but i signed it.. https://www.change.org/p/united-states-attorney-general-investigate-the-watchtower-society-of-jehovah-s-witnesses-re-child-sexual-abuse?recruiter=363165656&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink.

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  FREEMINDFADE- Thanks SO much for posting this. My wife and I signed it and my comment was posted as well condemning WT child abuse.

  People on our board - this petition as of now has 617 signatures- it needs 383 more to make the 1,000 needed to get submitted I believe to get a commission looking into this in the U.S. Let's all advocate for the abused JW children. There NEEDS to be a commission in the United States to check into this and grill WT leaders HERE on U.S. soil. The biggest majority of JW child abuse offenses ARE occurring here - so other countries may follow this lead if this petition goes through and we sign it. Let's strike while the iron is hot folks- PLEASE, PLEASE read the comments section when you look at the link that Freemindfade posted and you will read HUNDREDS of ex-JW's who are signing this petition that have been abused by JW father's, elders, and siblings, or other JW's - and they are showing the courage to GET SOMETHING DONE. May we have the same COURAGE to sign this petition and let's help EXPOSE this criminal organization the WT Society and bring justice to the children. Please look at this link and SIGN the petition for an inquiry into WT child abuse ! NOW. This is urgent- probably the most important thing you will do today
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  JWs nearly killed my mother

  by cookiemaster in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the past week has been hell for me.

  my mother started feeling ill and we went to seek medical assistance.

  we live in the mountains and the nearest large hospital is about 150 kms away.

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  COOKIEMASTER- I'm so sorry that your mom suffered these abuses from the JW cult. I'm so GLAD you were there for her to save her from the mind indoctrination of this evil organization. If she had died- I'd of sued their ass for murder. I'm so thankful you still have your mom. Great job my friend, I'm happy for you and your mom- and it sounds like this may be the beginnings of your mom awakening to TTATT. We will see. I think it's a good idea to stay in close contact with your mom so that your crazy JW dad doesn't try to " guilt trip " her over what she did. I know my crazy ass elder JW dad would do that to my older JW mom. I mean- hell- he put her away in a care facility for Christ sakes. Be watchful over your mom buddy- there is no END to what these sleazebag elders and WT Society representatives will try to do and encroach on our loved ones lives. They have NO conscience and they have NO morals. Take care, once again great job ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Is Satan really a liar, and the father of the lie?

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  5 for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.. .

  genesis 3:22. jehovah god then said: here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad..".

  for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.?.

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  No, Satan wasn't the father of ANYTHING. Satan is an unreality- an illusion created by religionists to keep humans in unnecessary fear. So is the concept of Adam and Eve. Just fantasy stories put in the Bible by humans to create unnecessary guilt in people as well. I wouldn't sweat the " Adam & Eve " thing or " Satan " thing if I were you. There are too many other things to be concerned about in real life
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  Having One Of Those "Pondering Disassociation" Days :(

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there are a lot of things that make me have days like this, the utter embarrassment of being are part of a cult that protects child abusers, that enforces emotional brutality through shunning, and that lies constantly.

  the lying i can tolerate, the world is built on bullshit, i have a high lie tolerance.

  i can ignore it if it has no effect on me etc.

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  FREEMINDFADE- I know how you feel as I'm somewhat in a similar position- but not exactly. My wife is a non-JW , which makes it much easier than you being married to a JW - hearing this drivel daily.

  However- that being said - what helps me is to NOT look at all of my JW family the same way. Let me explain. For the " older " generation Jw's in my family ( my parents , older siblings ) I pretty much know they are never going to change- they are all in their late 60's and beyond - but for my two JW daughters still in their late 20's who are still going through changes in life ahead of them ( they just are too young to realize they will go through changes of many kinds ) - I try to stay non-DFed so that I can eventually be able to assist them to see TTATT. If I were to DA or get DFed - they are indoctrinated enough to where they would NOT feel they could listen to me as they are told to REALLY shun us then. So I'd be cutting off my nose to spite my face ( if you get my drift ) .

  With your situation ( what I know of it anyway ) by staying non-DFed you still have your wife's ear as she OFFICIALLY is told she doesn't have to shun your advice. She still may change someday.Once you DA or get DFed- all bets are off- no matter WHAT she may tell you. If she's a pioneer- believe me- she's still mind controlled to the nth degree in what he WT Society tells her to do- so you'd be making it tougher to live with her- in my opinion if you DAed or got DFed. And you keep her hearing ear in order to help her see TTATT if and when she decides to do so.

  One option you might consider in order to make it easier on yourself if you plan on staying with current JW wife is to TOTALLY stop attending meetings. It would at least be a couple of days a week where you won't have that mind control psycho babble WT bullshit creeping into your mind - so you'll be able to clear YOUR head up more. Just an opinion my friend. Anyway- I know you'll do what you feel is best in your situation- just know that we are here for you to vent, O.K. ? Take care buddy, Peace out, Unca Flip.
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  JWs nearly killed my mother

  by cookiemaster in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the past week has been hell for me.

  my mother started feeling ill and we went to seek medical assistance.

  we live in the mountains and the nearest large hospital is about 150 kms away.

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  Three elders came to the house the next day and read us some bible verses stating that one should care for their family and told us that it's not their responsibility.

  Watchtower is horrible. And the brain dead creeps who follow them.

  Yes they are mind controlled - but at some point hiding in their fantasy world is self indulgent, irresponsible, cowardly and immoral. I have always thought that superstitious religious people have got to know, somewhere in their minds, that it's bullshit.

  This is a story that should be in the news.

  Mrs. Flipper
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  Samuel Herd 3 min video - the most misogynistic words I ever heard from a "godly man"

  by paradisebeauty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=72&v=9vvqxf9uwu0.

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  That guy is incredibly stupid. I don't think any of the GB are playing with a full deck.

  Jackson is probably the most publicly presentable - he was able to come off as sane most of the time in the RC hearing but he still had his stupid moments. Someone in an executive position would normally know better.

  Those guys are just bullies plain and simple - oppress women and children because they can. Not very evolved, and dumb as a bag of hammers.

  See? Eve was framed. Mrs. Flipper
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  Will Jehovah`s Witnesses join with other religions in Compensation Payouts ?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  justice mcclellen asked g.jackson about compensation for victims of child abuse , and mcclellan suggested it be by a consortium of groups , presumably religious and secular in nature as a pool to dispense approppiate compensation to all of the victims involved .. g.jackson hesitated and said they would have to look at the details of that proposal , before committing to it.. jehovah`s witnesses consider themselves as the only true religion and ,all others as false religion .. they take pains to separate themselves from from any association with other religions , not even being included in newspaper notices about church services.they want to keep themselves separate and distinct from false religion as they see them.. so how do you think they will handle this suggestion / requirement ?

  will they join in aligning themselves with "babylon the great" in compensation .?.

  didn`t they align themselves with another religion in the u.s.a. some years ago , that had to do with the w.t.

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  I agree with what Sir 82 is saying. If legally required to pay compensation to child abuse victims they WILL " drag their heals " until the last of their court appeals has been used up. It's WHO they are and HOW they operate as the " criminal organization " that they are - the WT Society. As Punk of Nice stated they are a " selfish " or " self serving " organization. And that attitude permeates from the top of the organization all the way down to the least valued JW member
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  Dealing With ANGER!!

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  little help i'd like to pass on from another cult survivor to me.. not jw but a violent, physically captive indian cult.. she says on anger:.

  it's the longest lasting emotion with have.. it takes at least 90 seconds for it to run it's course once we stop.a lot can happen in 90 seconds, and some of the most horrible exchanges and actions happen right after the anger first manifests itself.. we're experiencing fantastic results by just going for a very short walk ( 90 seconds out in the yard or other room ) before continuing the conversation.. when my wife and i come back together we can smile, embrace and congratulate each other for avoiding a horrible day.. before it even becomes anger, wait 3-5 seconds before making your reply.

  slow it down!!

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  KAIROS- Interesting thread thanks for posting it. I've also read that it takes less muscles in your face to smile than to frown somewhere- so the idea is to be happy and smile more and frown less. LOL !

  But yeah, in all seriousness the thing that really helps me get rid of my anger or sadness towards the JW cult is playing music or singing and strumming my guitar. It get's the " Led or lead " out so to speak and helps me readjust my thinking into a more positive vibration. I know we've talked about playing music before- so you probably experience similar things as well. It's a healer - most definitely. Take care bud, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  The Religion Of Rejection - And Now That Includes Me

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  due to some recent developments i find myself in a new place, and at this point i've lost all of my family and fri....oh that's right, i never really had any friends in the organization anyway.

  just people that wanted something from me and a few people that i would invite to do things that occasionally said yes.

  the recent rejections of me got me thinking, so let's take a rejection inventory.. i had to reject all of the holidays when my parents started studying.. i had to reject any worldly friends that i already had.. even family became rejected, and the new religion had some place in that.. i was rejected in school and bullied all of the time, not just because we were poor and i made good grades, but for jw reasons too.

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  DUBSTEPPED- What a very heartfelt opening thread. I'm so sorry you've been treated so inhumanely. Many of us ( myself included ) have and are being treated the exact same way by family still who are JW's. Please be assured of our love and my wife and I are here as a support to you and your wife as friends, O.K. ? Take care and hang in there