Posts by flipper

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New video telling the R&F to be generous

by Splash in

bro sanderson has a 7 minute video up on their streaming website called "be willing to open your hand".. in it he tells us not to be "tight fisted" or "stingy" and later "regardless of how much we have or how little we have, we'll find something within our power to be able to do".

we have the responsibility to imitate jehovah's generosity.. there's a bit about giving to one another when we see the need, which is nice, then he drops in how 20 years ago the canada branch committee asked the bethel family for donations to the disaster relief fund, and promptly raised over $10,000.

i think that's pretty good going for those under a vow of poverty.. "the generous person will prosper" he says, then illustrates this using a made up story.

flipper

What an ignorant illustration. That flaxseed in the hand illustration is very weak. They'll say anything to scrounge a buck or three out of JW's. Amazing

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Attention JW lurkers: May JW TV broadcast demonstrates the GB's utter contempt for you (and all non-elite JWs)

by sir82 in

in may's "we will never solicit for money, but now we're going to solicit you for the next hour" broadcast, we kept hearing about all the "facts" that the gb would like for us to know.. hmm...what facts did they leave out?.

-- $millions have been spent in out-of-court settlements of child abuse cases.

-- $untold amounts are being spent on legal defense of wt policies related to child abuse.

flipper

SIR 82- You nailed it precisely. The secrecy and cloak of illusion the WT leaders use to deceive rank & file JW's is like a circus performer doing slight of hand tricks- only this time WT Society is doing slight of hand tricks with JW followers money . I mean think about it- to even HAVE an annual article printed up every year ( when is it in November's WT ? ) about HOW JW's can contribute life insurance policies, inheritances, material possessions, stocks, jewelry, real estate, etc. to " further kingdom interests " is disgusting.

And rank & file JW's are none the wiser. They are TOO trusting of the GB's motives, TOO trusting that the WT leaders know best on their behalf. WT leaders are ONLY interested in keeping the financial game going for the WT organization so the benefits can benefit the WT corporate attorneys, WT shareholders , and WT leaders to keep their coveted positions of power and control. All on the backs of poorer rank & file members and aging JW widows who have been duped by this organization's motives since 1879. 136 years now which has turned this organization into a money grubbing real estate land grabbing machine. Disgusting

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Catch phrases used by the GB

by stuckinarut2 in

i read a comment on another thread that made me think of this topic.. how many catchphrases are used by the gb and organisation in an attempt to control or gain power or prevent questioning?

feel free to list as many as you can think of!.

i'll start:.

flipper

Here's another one - " doubting can be the beginning seeds of apostasy or leaning in that direction " I've seen that used as well

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Catch phrases used by the GB

by stuckinarut2 in

i read a comment on another thread that made me think of this topic.. how many catchphrases are used by the gb and organisation in an attempt to control or gain power or prevent questioning?

feel free to list as many as you can think of!.

i'll start:.

flipper

" the brothers and sisters "

" a privileged people "

" a people for special possession "

" The friends "

" the truth "

" new light "

" Jehovah's progressive organization "

" Governing Body appointed by holy spirit "

" elders appointed by holy spirit "

Those are some I can think of off the top of my head that cause JW's not to question anything, it affects their mind, emotions, relationships- everything

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How many child abuse cases?

by LHS123 in

does anyone know where i can find numbers of how many child abuse cases have been brought against jws or settled out of court?.

i know that 1 is too many and statistics don't reflect the horror suffered, but i would like some numbers to use when explaining to others the reasons for my decreased activity and to have support for my reasons for 'stumbling', facts which might make others think too.. im from uk so it helps that the charities commission is investigating there and also there's a paedophiles exposed website which names 32 jws convicted in uk since 2012, horrifying!

http://ukpaedos-exposed.com.

flipper

There were 16 out of court child abuse cases settled out of court in California in 2007 alone and the attorney Irwin Zalkin from what I understand has at least 20 or more child abuse lawsuits going right now against the WT Society. There are also about 7 cases I am aware of going against the WT Society in Texas it was mentioned in the last 6 months here on the board. With the ones that you mentioned in Great Britain- it's no stretch of the imagination that over 100 or more of these WT child abuse cases are going on throughout the entire world right now. And yes- WT Society in the United States does have a list of about 23,000 known JW pedophiles on their database list. A list that they REFUSED to hand over to the courts in San Diego, CA. which cost them 13.5 million $$$$ in lawsuits in favor of Gilbert Lopez a JW child abuse victim.

WT leaders are arrogant they feel the laws of the land do NOT apply to them , but they are starting to get a rude awakening to reality these last couple years. The more stubborn WT leaders choose not to cooperate with police and laws of the land it will only get them more negative attention in the media which in turn may start turning even more JW's into exiting the JW organization

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A big hello and thank you

by iwasblind in

i just wanted to introduce myself and say a big hello to all of my mentally diseased friends.. i say friends because i have been lurking for some time so it feels like home (us lurkers are a bit scared and cautious so it takes a while).

i won't bore you with too many details, but i am a born in, currently serving as the cobe of a congregation.

my wife and i have pioneered for the last 10 years and were shaken awake by that ridiculous 15th july 2013 wt about the generation and 1914.. my wife who is much smarter than me has questioned for years.

flipper

IWASBLIND- It's so nice to have you here. Don't feel bad about being deceived- WT leaders deceived ALL of us. We are here as a support to you and your wife. I was a born-in too, got out at age 44 over 11 years ago. There IS a positive life after exiting the JW cult- believe me. You folks will do fine. We are here for you. Take care, both of you- Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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How do I get the COBE to pay back the money he and his ripped off from my ex-wife, he's the guy who claims he make's Pedophiles Holy by YHWH's power!

by PhilsWager2 in

the cobe of the local kingdom hall never paid my ex-wife for the work done because they promised they would use "trade" to reimburse close to $5000 worth of work.

as you can imagine nobody here would like him because he believes all the pedophiles can change their ways after the child sex offenders have proved their humility by bowing before the judicial committees.

this is how honest jehovah's witnesses are, they changed her work from a 1200 sq.

flipper

PW2, I wouldn't bother calling Bethel. If turning these clowns in would prevent them ripping off more people I would do it.

I called Bethel a few years back when a coddled-by-elders ex-con pedophile followed my friend in his car. (She was more angry than afraid and drove straight to the house of one of the pedo's elder buddies)

I told them I was afraid for her safety, that I'd never been a witness and was several states away. I laid out the criminal leanings of some of these elders and that it's well known that pedophiles don't change.

The jerk at Bethel sounded like a damned robot " It will be looked into." Basically not interested.

Are you in Washington state? This sounds just like that congregation. I hate to think there's another one as bad, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Mrs. Flipper

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The Thrill Is Gone and so is B.B. King- the REAL King

by flipper in

jw
friends

i know there's another thread about this specially talented musician's passing- but this guy was a torch carrier from the old bluesmen like muddy waters, howlin wolf, john lee hooker, and lightnin' hopkins who made chuck berry millions of $$$$$$ and collaborated with rock n rollers like bono of u2 .

these old bluesmen from the 1940's deserve all the credit for the babv that the blues ended up giving birth to- rock and roll music.

any comments are appreciated and welcome for b.b., music, or the blues in general pour your heart out.

flipper

I know there's another thread about this specially talented musician's passing- but this guy was a torch carrier from the old bluesmen like Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf, John Lee Hooker, and Lightnin' Hopkins who made Chuck Berry millions of $$$$$$ and collaborated with rock n rollers like Bono of U2 . These old bluesmen from the 1940's deserve all the credit for the babv that the blues ended up giving birth to- rock and roll music. Any comments are appreciated and welcome for B.B., music, or the blues in general pour your heart out. Rest in peace B.B. You earned your 89 years brother

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Lucille has been silenced

by _Morpheus in

r.i.p.

bb king.

.

flipper

B.B. My dear friend rest in peace brother. 89 years of living, feeling, sweating, and playing the blues. What a privilege it was when I saw B.B. perform live in concert back in 2002. I'll never forget it- he was on the bill with another Legend - Buddy Guy.

B.B. is one of the last remaining late 1940's blues artists that was performing up to the last year. I rank his influence right up there with Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf, and John Lee Hooker which really became the connectors as ambassadors of the blues connecting them to the eventual Little Richard which borrowed heavily from artists like B.B. King and the other great bluesmen. Which became rock n roll. Rest B.B. rest in peace. Peace out, mr. Flipper

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Why I remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Brother Jeramy in

allow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.

i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.

some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).

flipper

I'm not even going waste my time in trying to reason with you because on other threads you've shown yourself too prideful to accept the majority of people's opinions here on this board. So I will just say that you are deluding yourself. If you continue claiming to be a Jehovah's Witness - you are STILL mind controlled by the WT Society no matter WHAT you claim. Because in order to have an air of " respectability " among your JW " brothers " and " sisters " ( as you call them ) you still have to obey and go along with WT Society rules or you'll be kicked out of the organization. You turn time in ? You're still controlled by the WT Society. You attend meetings. You're still controlled by the WT Society. You sing songs at meetings ? You are still controlled by the WT Society. You watch cartoons at the kingdom hall ? WT Society produced the cartoons seeping into your mind. You answer at meetings ? You are still controlled by the WT game. If you are sitting at a kingdom hall- the mind controlled WT rhetoric WILL enter into your mind.

You are just in denial about the fact that you are still supporting the WT Society. You will be a indecisive person the rest of your life unless you give your mind and emotions a break to not support a criminal organization like WT Society. Otherwise- you are guilty by way of association