Posts by flipper

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Groanfest. Share your daftest jokes .

by jhine in

lots of serious stuff being discussed on site .

i thought!it would be nice to make each other groan/ smile for a change .please share your corniest ,punniest , or daftest joke .. i will start with this shocker , borrowed from tim vine .. vandalism in a multi story carpark ....... ...................................,............................ wrong on sooo many levels !.

come on now share yours.

flipper

A man goes to a psychiatrist and says, " Doc- I think I'm a dog ! I'm growling, barking, scratching- grrrrr.... - I just can't stop ! " Doc says, " You've got a real problem. Come sit down on my couch and tell me about it. " Man says, " I can't - I'm not allowed on the couch. " Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Jehovahs Witness Shunning & the Crusades

by freemindfade in

while discussing being mistreated by my own jw family last night with my wife, i wanted to try to make her think critically about what shunning really is, and at its root what how beneficial it is.

earlier in the day i sent her non-apostate scholarly article on religious shunning being tantamount to psychological torture.

and most witnesses don't think into much about why they do things, its more of a "this is the way we do it, don't over think it" process.

flipper

My 30 year old son and me get shunned by my two JW daughters aged 28 and 26 . And yes it hurts, yes it affects us psychologically. They've shunned us for 11 years now. I cannot even watch T.V. programs that deal with fathers having a close, good relationship with their daughters when it shows them hugging or being close- because I usually start tearing up or start crying due to my personal loss of my daughters. So I'll change the channel or watch something else. The WT Society IS as evil as those who took part in the inquisitions ; it's just another form of psychological terrorism . Needs to be stopped

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According to Oct.1st 2012 WT Directions- Past Child Molesters CAN Be Appointed Elders

by flipper in

considering the fact that the wt society refuses to release in courts any of it's written directions to elders through confidential letters to elder bodies- i thought i'd do the courts and wt society a "favor " by posting excerpts from this oct 1st.

2012 letter from the wt society to all bodies of elders.

these instructions are very exposing of the negligence of wt authorities in how they view the seriousness of felony child abuse.

flipper

GONE AND FORGOTTEN- You make a very good point. How could a man be appointed as an elder if he doesn't have a good reputation inside or outside the congregation - as the WT Society CLAIMS to follow the Bible in making appointments ? You are right those records are available for all to see. Problem is - is that elders or the GB don't bother to look at the records because they just don't care. They set their OWN standards for who gets appointed elder and who does not. I would venture to say that child molesters stand a better chance getting appointed elders these days than apostates or even still-in JW's who are independent thinkers who have doubts. As you say it's hypocritical of the WT Society to point fingers at the Catholic church then do even worse things themselves. WT is a criminal organization

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Child Abuse Trials

by Garrett in

i'm currently working something up to share with a few people.

i was wondering if anyone knew the current number (estimation) of child abuse cases that are going on (that we know about)?

i don't get much time to be on here right now but it seems that cases are sprouting everywhere.

flipper

As the scan shows regarding United Kingdom about 27 and from what I've read about 25 to 30 in the United States right now with several different law firms working on these cases. So that's just two countries that I'm aware of- so you can only imagine what's happening in Australia where I've also heard more are coming down the pike and other areas in the world. If we really knew about ALL of them going on - it may be over 100 worldwide - hard to tell. Enough of them going on to cause WT Society some financial and PR concern though. Bad Karma's coming back to bite them where it counts. Peace out , Mr. Flipper

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According to Oct.1st 2012 WT Directions- Past Child Molesters CAN Be Appointed Elders

by flipper in

considering the fact that the wt society refuses to release in courts any of it's written directions to elders through confidential letters to elder bodies- i thought i'd do the courts and wt society a "favor " by posting excerpts from this oct 1st.

2012 letter from the wt society to all bodies of elders.

these instructions are very exposing of the negligence of wt authorities in how they view the seriousness of felony child abuse.

flipper

VIDIOT- Exactly, you are spot on hitting the nail on the head. The " public exposure of it all " as you stated would probably incriminate MANY higher ups within the WT organization and then if THAT became exposed - it could lead to a federal investigation by the U.S. government. Especially if by chance higher ups would possibly be involved in a larger pedophile ring involving organized crime. Think about that for a minute. It would blow the top off of the WT Society . We'd be looking at the " end game " for WT officials. Thus - you are right- IF this is the possible scenario ( and I'm not saying it is ) but IF it's possible - then WT officials would rather settle many child abuse lawsuits than reveal what's in their secret database file. God only knows WHAT are in those files. It's not pretty- I guarantee you that.

DATA-DOG- Exactly. WT leaders don't want courts OR the federal government snooping around inside their secret files in the database. I think it would be a good thing to get the feds involved. It might hasten the demise of the criminal organization called WT Society

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According to Oct.1st 2012 WT Directions- Past Child Molesters CAN Be Appointed Elders

by flipper in

considering the fact that the wt society refuses to release in courts any of it's written directions to elders through confidential letters to elder bodies- i thought i'd do the courts and wt society a "favor " by posting excerpts from this oct 1st.

2012 letter from the wt society to all bodies of elders.

these instructions are very exposing of the negligence of wt authorities in how they view the seriousness of felony child abuse.

flipper

Does anybody else have experiences or know of situations in the past where a former child molester has been appointed as an elder or an MS within the JW organization ? It would be interesting to see how often this is happening. So feel free to share your experiences if you heard or know of some. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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IMPORTANT NEWS: ABC News' Nightline will air a segment about the Watchtower (JWs) Wednesday morning at 12:35 a.m. EST

by AndersonsInfo in

important news:.

here in the united states, on wednesday morning, march 11th at 12:35 a.m., est, barring any breaking news the day before, the program, nightline, will air as their lead story a 9-minute segment about the watchtower (jehovah's witnesses).

the program is 30 minutes long and this segment is only one part of the show.

flipper

Thanks for the heads up Barbara, I'll certainly try to catch it

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Behold the face of indoctrination! My moms guilt tripping letter to me.

by BU2B in

jw
friends

i wish i knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother.

i know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow wt spectrum.

if i do not meet her narrow expectations, i am a failure to her.

flipper

BU2B- I never saw the movie : They Live "- I'll have to check that one out, Sounds good. I hope things get somewhat easier for you with your mom. Indeed I am very lucky to have a special lady like my mom in my life. She more than makes up for how boorish and rude my dad can be. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Behold the face of indoctrination! My moms guilt tripping letter to me.

by BU2B in

jw
friends

i wish i knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother.

i know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow wt spectrum.

if i do not meet her narrow expectations, i am a failure to her.

flipper

BU2B- I'm so sorry that your mom is so mind controlled that she can't see the decent loving son that you are and that she puts all these pressures and expectations onto you. I have an older JW elder dad who is 89 now and he does the same thing to me. Since he put my mom in an assisted living facility a year ago- he feels he doesn't have to be nice to me anymore as my mom isn't there to keep him in check. So an epic conversation with him and me last 3 minutes- tops. Or if he's with my mom he'll tell me " I'm handing you back to your mom now ". Just doesn't want to talk to me. His loss as you stated.

My mom is really nice and respects the stand I made in exiting the Witnesses . So at least one of my parents accepts me unconditionally. But my older son who is turning 30 years old- his mom, my fanatic JW ex-wife totally shuns him for the last 12 years or so since he exited the cult and has even told him when he went to college that " Satan has control of your mind son. " To his credit he has always told her that he loves her and that he is the same son, just looks at things differently and has different views of the WT beliefs. He tells her he'll always be there for her if she needs him. Very mature view. He totally understands about mind control and how it works. It helps that you understand it as well- so if and when your mom ever lightens up- you'll be there for her as well. Your mom is like my dad, my ex-wife, and my two JW daughters- mind control is actually a mental illness, a condition called " dissociative disorder " where Witnesses can dissociate their true feelings from authentic, humane feelings towards us in obedience to WT indoctrination. It's not normal mentally sane functioning, as I'm sure you are well aware. Take care, we are here as a support to you my friend, we feel you, lots of us go through this with relatives. Hang in there, if you ever want to talk, just PM me, O.K. ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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According to Oct.1st 2012 WT Directions- Past Child Molesters CAN Be Appointed Elders

by flipper in

considering the fact that the wt society refuses to release in courts any of it's written directions to elders through confidential letters to elder bodies- i thought i'd do the courts and wt society a "favor " by posting excerpts from this oct 1st.

2012 letter from the wt society to all bodies of elders.

these instructions are very exposing of the negligence of wt authorities in how they view the seriousness of felony child abuse.

flipper

ON THE WAY OUT- Yeah, essentially we agree indeed. I'm with you that the GB would rather pay out millions $$$ than have to testify on the witness stand at child abuse court trials handing over documents incriminating them. And yes the JW rank & file will be guilted into contributing more donations to the WT society - but won't be told it's really to accommodate all the child abuse lawsuits- they'll just be told it's to " further the worldwide kingdom work " or whatever they call it these days .

TRUTHSETSONEFREE- Indeed it is an important topic to spread around and get the word out on. It's a dangerous enough policy from the WT Society letting pedophiles roam from congregation to congregation. Gets even more dangerous when pedophiles are put into positions of power and control as elders. Then helpless children are even MORE at risk. Peace out, Mr. Flipper