Posts by flipper

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Does anyone have any information on lawsuits in regards to JW's victimizing the mentally ill?

by lme123 in

i am a former jw, 14 years removed.

i moved out of state away from my jw family for 10 years, and currently moved back to my home town 2 years ago.

it was a great healing process for me, especially being away from all of the confusing and controversial influences i was raised with.

flipper

IME123- Welcome to the board. Nice to have you here. I'm so sorry that your friend that you mention was treated so unjustly from the elders and the WT mindset in the elders. I have personally known people who were JW's who committed suicide after having been treated unjustly from elders. Elders are NOT trained to deal with mental illness. But they act as an authority under the guidance of the WT Society. It's extremely dangerous and the WT Society has a lot of bloodguilt on it's hands due to allowing these injustices to happen.

As regards HOW you can gather a lot of unjustly treated people together who have suffered abuse from the WT Society due to mental illness to go for a class action lawsuit against the WT Society- your guess is as good as mine. I would suggest talking to an attorney for a consultation to see what options are available. You'll need all the support you can in taking on the WT Society. Victims of WT child abuse are finding that out for sure. You'll need documentation, good attorneys who know the law. WT Society doesn't like to admit fault for any injustices they commit. I applaud you for taking the time and effort to fight on behalf of these victims. You have my support. I wish you the best and good luck indeed in pursuing it

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"Why are we supposed to be happy when people are killed?" From a 10 year old

by stuckinarut2 in

i was really overjoyed to hear a 10 year old in the hall say this the other day.

she was sitting behind us and whispered to her mum during the meeting:.

"so mummy, why are we supposed to be happy when jehovah kills people, including my friends at school?

flipper

What a decent child with a pure good heart. Smart question. Why should we be happy if Jehovah kills people ? Hopefully this child will exit this criminal cult Jehovah's Witnesses

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Woke up this morning to the realization that the future is now

by campaign of hate in

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as the title of the thread says, i woke up this morning realizing more than ever that we should, each and every one of us, live for today and what we can accomplish today, rather than constantly looking toward the future.. i'm not implying we shouldn't make plans, plans are healthy and advisable, especially if you have healthy commitments.. but i realized the reason why nothing in my life ever seems to get done, is because i put things off, and look ahead 10 years down the line, then a few days later realize how much work needs to be put into that said task, then i don't do anything.

and so the cycle seems to repeat itself.. what i think i'm trying to say is that worthwhile endeavors that have a reward at the end, but take many years to get there, need to be challenged one day at a time.

i now understand that to get to where we want to be 10 years down the line, we need to focus on today and the hard work that needs to be out into a task one day at a time.

flipper

This is a great thread Campaign that deserves to have more thoughts given to it. Live in the here and now my friends

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Stop WT society information control by giving access to REAL information

by flipper in

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of course we all know that many ex-jw's are doing this online constantly and that's a good thing.

whether by you tubes, websites, blogs, etc.

the worldwide community of ex-jw's has been and will continue to be proactive in putting out real information to counteract and offset the lies and fantasy propaganda put out by the wt society.

flipper

Going to work all night tonight so wanted to invite anyone to share some thoughts about how to keep giving access to real information to JW's and others concerning the WT Society injustices. Let's put our minds together

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Do Jehovah Witnesses give out mis-information deliberately?

by smiddy in

do you think it is possible that the g.b.is deliberately giving out mis-information to confuse either apostates or media that might be investigating them for one reason or another ?

speak out of both corners of their mouth .

and the reason they do so ?

flipper

Yes, I agree that WT leaders use misinformation to deceive intentionally. Just look at how they deceive regarding their child abuse policies to the public. Especially to the media They try to appear that they are responsible regarding child abuse. But nothing is further from the truth. A person could find numerous other areas where the WT Society intentionally deceives and it's all to meet their agenda of being a financially wealthy organization. Bottom line

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Oh the joy of freedom..... to be just me.

by franticfran in

finally after five years i have finally shut the door very firmly on the witnesses.

i have had this "sister" calling for over the last six months clearly trying to reactivate me,but never mentioning the reason why me and my family left the forfar congregation two years ago.

it was always any subject but the " elephant in the room" well today was the finale.

flipper

Fran- It took a lot of courage to do what you did. Congratulations, well done. Enjoy your freedom of mind

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GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."

by Separation of Powers in

my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.

i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.

we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.

flipper

" The brother said that the GB want us all to know that soon , VERY SOON our way of worship will be altered by this wicked world. "

Translation : " Our financial tits are in the wringer with all of these child abuse lawsuits coming at us from Satan's wicked world. One reason we need volunteers to serve as attorneys in our legal department. We want you brothers and sisters to know that if WE the GB get thrown into prison due to persecution because of aiding and abetting child molesters or financial dishonesty - please realize it's a ploy from Satan to deceive you and that we are REALLY being persecuted for righteousness's sake. AS Jesus stated, " A prophet is never respected in his home town ." We remain your brothers in Jehovah's service - new light coming soon from a federal prison near you. Stay logged on to JW.ORG. "

I can see some sort of excuses like this being made in all seriousness without the GB blinking an eye

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received revealing "witness" in parking lot

by Magnum in

a few weeks ago i was working out of my home state and was in a grocery store parking lot when i received my first jw witness since leaving jwdom.

a youngish-looking lady was sitting in an suv parked next to my car and i was about to get in my car to leave.

she opened the door and asked whether she could give me something to read (had a tract in her hand)..

flipper

Magnum- Now you have ANOTHER kind of hope. You can live your life with freedom of mind - unencumbered by the false promises and lies that the WT Society controlled us with through fear and guilt. You have the hope of living out the rest of your life pursuing hobbies, interests, dreams, and careers in reality that you may not have been allowed to pursue had you remained in a mind control cult. You have the hope of living your life with no fear of an imaginary Armageddon and can control your own destiny instead of 8 old farts controlling it from WT headquarters. I'd say- I like your chances pretty good ! You DO have hope !

Just trying to be the silver lining in your cloud this morning ! LOL. Take care bro

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More education bashing in April 2015 simplified watchtower

by hoser in

elders in wealthy lands may find it difficult to encourage baptized brothers in their 20s or 30s to do more in the congregation.

ex- perienced elders in about 20 lands told us why they believe that some young brothers do not do more in the congregation.

most of them said that when some brothers were young, their parents did not encour- age them to set goals in jehovahs ser- vice.

flipper

I hope JW parents keep encouraging their minor children to get a higher education as it will help them develop critical thinking skills that they need to not only survive financially- but to escape the clutches of a criminal organization like the WT Society produces in Jehovah's Witnesses

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The Fear mongering of this weeks WT study!

by stuckinarut2 in

have you all read this weeks study article?.

oh my word it is full of fear inducing tactics....doom and gloom outlooks.... anxiety inducing methods to develop absolute control over witnesses and cripple them in any attempt to think for themselves!.

(notice i am saying "themselves" rather than "ourselves"?!

flipper

SKIN stated, " Our WT conductor even told us that when we are hiding in this basement all elders can log into JW.ORG to get the latest instructions from HQ. "

Oh brother. How does this elder know that the electrical grid will even be working ? If the grid goes down, there ain't gonna be NO communication from the WT alleged " mother ship ". No computers, no nothing. The ignorance that WT leaders spreads into these people's minds is beyond unbelievable. And the fear they spread as well