Thinking about death and resurrection logically will make your brain hurt.
George Carlin had a brilliant bit about this in the context of the traditional Christian teaching of going to heaven when you die:
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I remember my Grandfather who was a CO saying;
by dogon ini was thinking of my co grandfather who passed on a few years ago.
his wife my grandmother passed on in 99. i can remember him saying "i know after armageddon i can not be married to her but maybe we can live next to each other.
not sure where the cult stands on this issue today.
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Another JW Urban Legend Thread
by Funchback inthreads about jw urban legends are nothing new on this forum.
they are loads of fun to read.
how many of you remember the one about the teenager who skipped the meeting and decided to get into a car with his worldly friends and they worldly guys decided to rob a store and the jw didn't know they were going to do so but he was arrested simply for being with them?.
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Not an urban legend, but this actually happened to an inactive family in our hall. One weekend when there was a convention going on the teenage son was riding in the bed of a pickup truck. Truck was in an accident, the kid was ejected and ended up in a vegetative state.
Thankfully most JWs had enough decency not to openly use it as a cautionary tale, but every now and then it was brought up among the more "spiritually mature" JWs. If only they were "still serving Jehovah" they would have been at the convention and nothing would have happened to him...
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Do you think the general public cares about former Jehovah's witnesses?
by Christian Gutierrez ini was wondering if you guys think if the general public cares about our stories or if they even care what the watchtower does to people??
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According to some reports, 3 million children die every year due to poor nutrition, roughly one every ten seconds.
How much time do I spend thinking about them? Sadly, hardly any. I'm wrapped up in my own concerns, many of which directly relate to JWs.
There are much bigger problems in the world and JWs don't directly affect the lives of 99% of the world's population.
If a definitive history textbook of the last 100 years existed, the Witnesses would occupy a footnote at best.
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Another day, another cart
by Anony Mous ini was standing at a red light and i noticed the little cart standing there.
they're barely noticeable and when i continued there was apparently someone on the other side of the street too.
the only problem, the location is a very busy intersection which has virtually no foot traffic and they're hard to see to begin with, as you can see from my vantage point i couldn't even read the cart and three people next to them on this side and two of them on the other side.. .
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I've yet to see a cart in the US but I recently got back from a two-week vacation in Europe and there were carts in front of roughly half the landmarks I visited. It was odd. The JWs were mostly standing there looking indifferent as the tourists walked around them.
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How serious is sexting
by Homer notsimpson insome of y'all may know why i am asking this, but i am curious about it.. sexting in the elders book says it's enough to warrant a jc but it's very loose at it... what's y'all opinion?
do elders care alot of it?
what if it's an old case?
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neverendingjourney
If the person:
-- Was connected by phone to another human
-- They engaged in sex talk
-- One or both masturbated during the call
...then he/she could be DF'ed. That combination of circumstances was rendered equivalent to "porneia".I remember hearing/reading about this in the context of online chat rooms. This would have been around the early or mid 00s.
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Another family goes down in flames.
by dogon inmy wife's mother has alzheimer.
it is progressing to the point that she is writing things like she wishes she was dead and does not want to live.
if you know my mil you would know this is not her at all.
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neverendingjourney
I'm not quite there yet with my parents, but I'm not far off. Dad is 70 and Mom is 68. They live off social security. Never saved a penny for retirement. Made every terrible financial decision one can make. Dad essentially retired (refused to work is more like it) in his late 50s without a penny to his name instead of working hard to fund a retirement.
I dropped out of the Witnesses in my mid 20s, went to a four-year university, got a bachelor's degree, then got a professional degree after that. After eight years of building a career, I've paid off my massive, six-figure student loan burden and am now finally in a position to make long-term financial plans of my own.
At the same time my parents health is deteriorating and my siblings are starting to look at me as the logical one to bear the burden. I'm not having any of it. I won't let my parents starve, but I'm not going to let myself get taken down along with them.
I went through this in my early 20s when I was still a good Witnesses and living under my parents roof. I took a year's worth of savings and spent it all on badly needed repairs on my parents home. We're talking over $10,000 about 15 years ago. My parents then went out and bought $5,000 in living room furniture because they "got it on payments." Not only could they not afford the furniture, they had a dog who chewed up the couches within weeks.
But I didn't learn my lesson. A year or two later I bought my mother a car so she could get around and my father, jealous that I had done something nice for my mom, went out and bought a car himself, one he didn't need and couldn't afford. Again, he got it on payments. It sat in his driveway, mostly unused for years. It was a complete waste of money.
I'm not making the same mistakes again. I love them, but they have to face the consequences of a lifetime of bad decision-making.
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"Taking the "Lead" vs. "Leader"
by sir82 inthe wt articles for the past 2 weeks were the typical every-3-months-or-so attempt at justifying the sovereignty of the jw popes, the governing body.. aside from the usual specious reasoning and ridiculous assertions, i noted this:.
the articles went through great semantic pains to emphasize that, for the jws, jesus is "the leader", while the gb are merely "those taking the lead".. what, exactly, is the difference between a "leader" vs. "one who is taking the lead"?.
in what other sphere of human experience is such semantic pretzel logic even close to rational?.
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It's like they're not even trying anymore. Two generations that are really one. A GB that takes the lead but doesn't supplant the leader.
I guess that's what happens when you have a group that cannot be subjected to any kind of scrutiny or criticism. What's the incentive to try to have your statements make sense? The sheep will lap it up regardless.
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Porneia !
by zeb infriends!
we haven't heard that word for some time!
it must be due for another round from the wt you know what you can and cant do in marriage.. incoming!.
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@Zeb
We're in our late 30s now. She's on marriage number 3 and I'm still single. She spent most of her 20s DF'd and on drugs, but she's a witness again and married to another witness who's also on marriage number 3.
I left the witnesses for good in my mid 20s.
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Porneia !
by zeb infriends!
we haven't heard that word for some time!
it must be due for another round from the wt you know what you can and cant do in marriage.. incoming!.
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@stuckinarut2
Yes, everything about it was gross. Her parents were standing outside the back room when we were being interrogated. Normal people would be appalled, and rightfully so.
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Porneia !
by zeb infriends!
we haven't heard that word for some time!
it must be due for another round from the wt you know what you can and cant do in marriage.. incoming!.
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neverendingjourney
I remember elders in my hall discussing the intricacies of the word as if they were Biblical scholars learned in ancient Greek. Most of them didn't even have a high school diploma (seriously).
During my JC they quizzed me on how far I'd gone with my girlfriend in an effort to determine whether the conduct rose to the level of porneia. Did you touch her breasts? Did you kiss her bare breasts? What about her genitals, did you manipulate them? That kind of thing. I was 19 and my girlfriend was 17.