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  NEED XMAS IDEAS FOR MEN

  by pettygrudger in

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  i have purchased my hubby every tool i think known to man, with the exception of one of those "saw table thingies".

  i need some good ideas for a man who seems to own pretty much everything..... interesting "toy" ideas (i.e.

  he has a metal detector) would be great too.. what gadgets would you men buy for yourselves if you could?.

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  Eric

  pg,

  A friend of mine recently had the Big 40 birthday and he quietly made his birthday wish list known by dropping unsubtle hints about what he needed, wanted, desperately lacked, etc. All of it computer related, which was fine, everybody needs a hobby.

  I'd been over to his place many times, and his system is quite impressive, but I noticed that he had done what most men will do, forgotten to make room for himself among his gadgets and possessions. There, among his expensive equipment and careful cable routing he sat perched on a threadbare, hard as rock, dilapitated little cast off bank tellers chair which he had retrieved from a dumpster back when he was eating Kraft Dinner, learning ASCII, and earning money changing ink rolls on Pitney Bowes postage meters.

  If your hubby spends a lot of time in the well equipped garage or workshop, look around for examples of where he has forgotten to include himself among his prized possessions.

  Examples:

  He is out there listening to a tinny sounding radio with a wire coat-hanger antennae and a vise-grip tool permanently serving as a tuner control.

  The workshop lacks a refrigerator.

  He keeps a large piece of cardboard on hand to do: Anything. There is a piece of equipment out there that will do it better.

  He has to leave the workshop to answer a phone call.

  I think you get the idea.

  Eric
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  JW Code and Silent Lambs

  by Goodboy in

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  2. child-abuse

  i have been busy for the past few weeks and finally got around to reading the thread containing bill bowen's latest letter to the governing body.

  apparently the gb just locked the gates and ignored them.

  correct me if i'm wrong, i haven't dug through all the posts... .

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  goodboy,

  Whoops! It seems I've fallen through a couple of cracks between your categorizations.

  Though I was Raised a JW, (born one in fact) I put off and put off being baptized because I had some doubts until at age 16 and son of the PO, my nonbaptized status began to become an issue of concern in the minds of certain elders who coveted my dad's position. When I rebelled against my father, still at age 16, an announcement was made to the congregation regarding my "public reproof - for conduct unbecoming a christian". I had to leave home because my reluctance to conform had made his position in the heirarchy untenable. That plus the fact that I had become tired of the beatings and I had grown to a size where I realized I could reverse the physical punishment.

  But, never having been baptized, my shunability ranking has remained somewhat dubious to my family and friends. Depending upon the odour wafting from the latest watchtower QFR, or ministry school supplement I am "in" or "out", acceptable or rejectable, invited to this anniversary then barred from that wedding, invited to this wedding then barred from that family re-union. Even my mother admits to befuddlement over my status, when she will or will not feel able to speak to me.

  In JW-speak, I believe this is similar to being called "marked". This is when a special needs talk is given to isolate an individual from social contact based on rumor and innuendo. - see QFR WT July 15, 1999 pg.29 - 31.

  Perhaps you need a status category: 'M'arked.

  Eric
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  target zone

  by teejay in

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  2. child-abuse

  the thought was recently presented to me that pedophiles might be trolling ex-jw boards to find out about apostafests and when they (pedos) would be able to meet children of ex-jws at said gatherings.

  absurd?

  yeah... i know, but since i have a daughter, it got me to thinking: when is a pedophile most likely to strike?

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  ?when *do* pedos find chances to abuse

  teejay,

  As your daughter gets a bit older, you will find the day when you turn her over to someone else's care. Kindergarten. Sunday school. Dance classes. Swimming lessons.

  To you as a concerned parent, these should be milestones to celebrate. They should also be dates where you go to DefCon3, asking probative questions, demanding to see proper documents of qualification, requesting references of everyone involved in the program, taking no bullsh*t answers and walking away from any program that balks at your requests or is too poorly organized to meet your requests.

  The pedophile relies on these gaps in organization, and seeks out opportunities to be involved in children's programs where he or she can be in a position of authority over the children.

  Condition your children to reject inappropriate adult remarks or advances, but the child also needs a plan as to how to do this. If your daughter's piano teacher demands proper finger placement during scale practice then she should obey, even if it is frustrating. If the piano teacher instructs finger placement anywhere on his body, she needs to know not just the difference, but what to do to get out of there safely.

  I've had the satisfaction of doing my small part to bust a pedophile. The man was training to be a Lifeguard, in fact we got him arrested on his final test day to get his certificate. None of this would have happened if it were not for the fact that his little victim knew what to do and though he was obviously very embarassed to even tell the story, he had total confidence that he was not at fault.

  There used to be a monthly magazine called National Lampoon. They had one issue in the 1970's that had a cover that featured a cute puppy with a gun to it's head. The cover read: "Buy This Magazine Or We Will Shoot This Dog". It remains Lampoon's biggest selling issue.

  The pedophile is not beyond actually using such tactics to shut up a child. Showing the child an animal that will be strangled if they talk or demonstrating such is not uncommon. Parents must maintain an unstoppable trust with their children so that even this tactic does not accomplish what the pedophile wants: a child who won't tell.

  You don't have to toughen up your child to meet this challenge, you just need a kid who will say "I'll Tell!" And then you have to be ready to listen.

  Eric
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  My mini-march today

  by Lady Lee in

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  2. child-abuse

  well getting to ny was impossible so i did my own.

  you can check the results here .

  http://lee_hardiman.tripod.com/march/silentlambs.html.

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  Lady Lee,

  To me there was nothing "mini" about your personal march for the Silentlambs. Nothing "mini" at all.

  Very interesting photos showing how "have" and "have-not" congregations status is reflected in their kingdom halls.

  Heart-wrenching stuff about taping their mouths, Lady Lee. I had to get up to go wash my face after reading that, I have grown unaccustomed to the taste of my tears. I feel silly doing the Cyber-hug thing,,, but who the heck cares?

  ((((((((((Lady Lee))))))))))

  No, nothing mini about it at all.

  Eric
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  Sex Scandal in Montana

  by silentlambs in

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  2. friends

  it has been brought to my attention that there may be a major scandal working in the billings montana area.

  it involves more than ten elders in a motel room at the district convention this summer and 14-16 year old girls.

  my information source says there is more to come with possible charges being filed, but key jw's work for social services there and are involved in the investigation.

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  og,

  Respectful disagreement is fine. Good, in fact. Sometimes great, even.

  BUT THIS:

  BTW, you really shouldn't refer to your wife as "an inflamatory and hackneyed old prune"!

  IS THE UTTER LIMIT of a well-placed one-liner!

  Thanks for a good belly laugh.

  I'll close this discussion by saying it's not so hard for me to imagine underage JW kids in their teens with elders in a hotel room. We just don't know the outcome of this event.

  I personally had a similar experience on a JW ski trip where we underage JW teens were in various hotel rooms with a JW MS as our "chaperone". We got him so pissed that we could party "unchaperoned" while he was either so fogged, passed out or sick and remorseful, we did whatever we wanted.

  Those were the days.

  Eric
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  books with 192 pages

  by izobcenec in

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  below is a list of 25 wt books, that all have 192 pages...how is it.

  possible, that books with such different themes all have 192 pages?.

  1967 did man get here by evolution or by creation?

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  how is it
  possible, that books with such different themes ALL have 192 pages?

  And Jehovah God loved the bindery operation above all other Bethel departments, for the application of glue sent a restful odor up into his nostrils...

  Eric

  Edited by - Eric on 25 September 2002 17:12:38
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  Sex Scandal in Montana

  by silentlambs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it has been brought to my attention that there may be a major scandal working in the billings montana area.

  it involves more than ten elders in a motel room at the district convention this summer and 14-16 year old girls.

  my information source says there is more to come with possible charges being filed, but key jw's work for social services there and are involved in the investigation.

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  og,

  Of course I recognized the allusion. However far from seeing it as a supporting reference in this discussion, I felt you were needlessly dragging out an inflamatory and hackneyed old prune. I took no personal offense whatsoever, I recognized it for what it was.

  So while we can continue to disagree over whether Bill's post was a simple request for corroboration, or an uncharacteristic, credibility damaging bout of rumour mongering, I will say this:

  With the lapse of days since his initial post, Bill should return to this thread, or post again separately when he has satisfied himself, and state that he believes the info was either false, planted, the result of misunderstanding or corroborated or partly corroborated and undergoing further investigation.

  He really should not just let it hang.

  Eric

  Edited by - Eric on 25 September 2002 16:48:18
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  Sex Scandal in Montana

  by silentlambs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it has been brought to my attention that there may be a major scandal working in the billings montana area.

  it involves more than ten elders in a motel room at the district convention this summer and 14-16 year old girls.

  my information source says there is more to come with possible charges being filed, but key jw's work for social services there and are involved in the investigation.

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  og,

  So if Bill were to ask a general question about rumours in Billings Montana, he might get a response like the one he is asking for confirmation of, correct?

  His request for information does not speak of gullibility or an over eagerness to see anything, it speaks of his wish for corroboration.

  I'm disappointed you resorted to asking the deeply vacant question about beating my wife, you had a good rep as a questioner of rumour going there for a while.

  Eric
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  NEWS - VICKI BOER CASE - Canadian Press - Sep 24

  by hawkaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  just released from the canadian press.

  hawk.

  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/020924/6/p5hm.html.

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  Thanks everyone for all of the continuing updates.

  Big ups to hawkaw for getting and keeping this in the media's eye. Great stuff.

  Thanks to those who are helping just a bit behind the scenes.

  Most of all, thank you Vicki for having the guts to get this case up in front of a Judge.

  Win or lose Vicki, this case has already won. In some ways you might not yet imagine.

  Hang in there, Vicki and Scott.

  Hang the Watchtower.

  Eric
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  What JWs are passing out in response to Silentlamb

  by Joyzabel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was outraged when i read what a friend of ours was given him by 2 jws yesterday when he asked them the question about the child molestation issue.

  i can't belive the jws have the guts to pass this stuff out.

  the people we were with at lunch today all looked at it and was replused at the wt's reply.. what do you think?.

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  >IDEA<

  If the Governing Body mean what they are saying with this really swell new policy, wouldn't they act immediately to turn over all of THEIR files pertaining to states that require reporting forthwith?

  After all, it IS what they say is THEIR new policy. Surely they do not expect local BOE's to follow a policy from which they would consider themselves exempt?

  I would love to see a reporter, armed with the WBTS's official policy ask a JW PR flack like J.R. Brown when the WBTS headquarters will follow its own procedure and provide police or other authorized investigative bodies with information on perpetrators of child abuse that they already have.

  According to their own policy, in states that require reporting, they have to get on with it, don't they?

  Eric