Posts by humbled

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UK justice..

by zeb in

tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

humbled

https://youtu.be/07qW8zizy0w

Above is an update from a spokesman for Lord Pearson MP who has written a strong letter to authorities on account of Tommy Robinson (Pearson is the MP who has pushed for open discussions with Muslims on what Islam is and is not)

If you have questions or concerns this fellow gives advice to the public to contact your MP about it.

pardon me if this is old news to every on the board. I am watching to see how this business goes. I hope it settles into the open conversations that will allow for actions other than violent explosions.

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It's not disfelowipping it's shunning canada

by poopie in

jw
friends

human rigjts..

humbled

Sure you do, Scratchme. You just need to find your funny bone.

maybe I have sawdust in my brain but l got to laughing at Sparrow’s post somewhere else and fell on this....l think it’s about human having the rigjts to be free to laugh at ourselves —just nonsense.

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Pseudonyms

by no-zombie in

one of this things that constantly reminds me of the extent and the reach the organization has into our lives, is the fact we all need pseudonyms to have a conversation or to make a comment in this even here in this place.

even when people have left the society (by however it has occurred), its rare to see somebody change their online presence to their personal name.. now i'm not expecting people to do that of course, fore we are all free to do what we like (which is the real beauty of this forum) but the fact that it doesn't occur that often, shows how much we've all been effected by being told over and over again, "not to be critical of god's organization".

of course there could be an number so side issues at play here; with some people not wanting to burn their bridges in an attempt to keep what reputation they have left intact and sadly a small minority others, do enjoy the anonymity to just talk trash ... but if a person can not feel free to stand up and respectfully make a critical comment or ask a thorny question without fear of repercussion from their religion, then doesn't it show that there is no real freedom in that faith.

humbled

There can be repercussions to our reputations by putting our name out here. But it is true that:

if a person can not feel free to stand up and respectfully make a critical comment or ask a thorny question without fear of repercussion from their religion, then doesn't it show that there is no real freedom in that faith.

And in regard to the JWs that is absolutely true.Those who are in the shadows of course have that burden you mention above.

But for some of us as we gingerly move into our new frontiers away from the negative WT are changing a bit —maybe even metamorphing into winged creatures— and are tender about ourselves. And we have been injured. also it is easier to confide some of the tough things in our lives if we do not feel too exposed.

Another issue that comes into pay is the old narratives we can loose by leaving our name outside. Some may just want a fresh page to write on.

This is a good thing to reflect on.

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It's not disfelowipping it's shunning canada

by poopie in

jw
friends

human rigjts..

humbled

Sparrowdown—ha!! all l can say to that is...

genitals

sparrowdown. (from a classic moment on the board)
They have been obsessed with genitals for long time.
Can't sleep? Genitals.
Stresed? Gentitals.
Clothing doesn't fit right? Genitals.
Feeling lonely? Genitals.
Can't pray? Genitals.
Unhappy? Gentitals...
As Yul Brenner would say et cetera et cetera et cetera

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Talked to a JW in the park

by Xanthippe in

so in my lunch break at work today i walked in the park, just chilling out when a woman approached and offered me a leaflet.

didn't have to read it i knew straight away who she was.. me: my family are involved with jws.

the new world was supposed to come in the mid-seventies but it didn't.

humbled

Her reaction said it hit the emotional chinks in her spiritual armor. Good. I hope the dart works through her brain.

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"Chicken Soup for the Apostate Soul."

by ChessaM in

my article detailing my experience as a witness and dealing with child sexual abuse as well as outing my abuser is soon to be released.

(i'm told in the next week or so.

) barbara anderson encouraged me to post here.

humbled

I liked your video. You are clear, not scattered.

You are on YouTube? This video should be if it is not already. I remembered that I could not quite give myself permission to come to this website at first but l would allow myself Youtube. (Weird l know— like blood fraction maths)

Art and poetry-Good. And good luck.

170

UK justice..

by zeb in

tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

humbled

Bandicoot— Sexual assault occurs in all cultures, but only in Islam does it have divine sanction.

Although I’ve heard this said frequently I have never seen it in writing from the Koran. Muslim women are not saying there are sacred texts to support their rape.

The Muslim Pakistani groomers of these girls seem very like the illiterate Christian preacher l met years who astonished with the vague and disturbing grasp he had of women and the Bible.

He had been raised on Foxes Book of Martyrs and hearsay. Of women he remembered only that “ The women will be kept safe through childbearing”. That was all. He came from a huge family.

Since you answer Janice this way, can you direct me to the Quran or perhaps you only have quotes from ignorant people like these Pakistani men?

This is important because just as conversation about Islam in parliament is needed so should we be able to ask what is spurious and what is actually there between ourselves, non-Muslims. Such questions should not cause us irritation. We need conversation.

170

UK justice..

by zeb in

tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

humbled

Luhe- If true that he pled guilty he will serve time. I am not a lawyer but it has happened in my state that the case was made that Arkansas could not protect the safety of its prisoners to such an extent that it violated their constitutional rights. ( it was seen as cruel and then usual punishment to be incarcerated in Arkansas in the late 60s through the 70s )The federal government provided oversight for 13 years in this state. Perhaps this approach could help Tommy (and others) who have no security in U.K. prisons.

I would leave off indignation at his arrest . That looks like a waste of time. Get the records on the prisons records of insufficient staff and Tommy’s past experiences with incarceration. Concentrate on the very provable charge that the state cannot guarantee his safety.

edit: On my previous post-sorry that first link on U.K. Prisons is a dead number. The second link is good

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UK justice..

by zeb in

tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

humbled

To your point, Ruby, even if Tommy R were a thug or a brawler —the state is obliged to care and protect him while in custody.

He plead guilty as charged. He was sentenced to prison. The state must keep him safe. Yet the situation of prisons in the U.K. makes their word untrustworthy. They presently cannot protect other men or their correctional officers. They are understaffed and overcrowded. Tommy poses special concerns. He was attacked during his last incarceration.

Even though l am of the opinion that he made himself the flashpoint to no good purpose it would serve everyone best if his sentence could be served under house arrest. My opinion.

0http://www.prisonreformtrust.org.uk/portals/0/documents/

bromley%20briefings/summer%202017%20factfile.pdf

170

UK justice..

by zeb in

tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

humbled

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7460736.stm

House arrest a possibility? Article about its use in the U.K. for difficult cases.

This sure is one.