imagine a world where being "gay" the norm & being "straight" would be the minority!
[short film].. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnojgdw0gpi.
The "gay agenda" you said is one that is named such by certain conservative groups.
The advocacy for certain basic civil rights --an agenda?
I am never going to marry another woman. Heterosexual men are not going to marry a man.
Aren't the issues on both sides about not forcing others into personal acts they find unnatural?
.. .........................some people are truly in need..some are not... a man passing by on his 10 speed bike,asked me for $2.00 for a cup of coffee... .................................................."uhhh,no"... ............another asked me for spare change outside a super market... ......................................i said i didn`t have any... ...................so he say`s "how about a credit card?!"......lol!!...
.. ....................what do you do,when people ask you for spare change?...
..... .. ..........................................whats the most outrageous thing... ......................................you`ve been asked forby a stranger?...
Outlaw,
A tinker is the name of folks who began in Ireland. There are a lot of stories about how they began. They did begin as itinerate groups. They've been around for centuries, some say. Some say the Famine years made them grow.
I stayed for a day with a small group in their wagons at the side of the road near Limerick when i took a messenger boy's bike across from Dublin wandering toward Galway that spring after the beggar episode.
I had a stretch of time off while the College of Art and Design was on break. (I finally got money working as an art model) The tinkers had horse drawn caravans then (I don't know about now) they spoke no English I could understand but "smokes" or something like it--they wanted me to pedal to the local news agent for cigarettes for us all. I smoked then.
In the country, they had a separate world from settled folks in the towns. The children I saw in the camp were like wild rabbits. You can find pictures of them on the net. Sometimes they are called the travellers.
But they do/did settle in Dublin and some(at least true for a tinker boy who i got to know slightly)return to the country in the spring.
there is pretty much a "we vs. them" attitude between tinkers/travellers. They are fringe dwellers by necessity and choice.
There are stereotypes of them. The kid who I knew was one I went to when my purse was stolen. He couldn't break through to help me, though. I only wanted my bag back (couln't easily buy another) even if I hadn't lost anything of value in it. He knew who had taken it.
Beggars sometimes just see others as a "mark". Nothing personal in it--the havenot may make stereotypes of anyone with a penny more than they have.
No one likes feeling like an object, either way. City tinkers were a little more "prejudiced" in my experience than the families I found that spring. But I don't know it all.
.. .........................some people are truly in need..some are not... a man passing by on his 10 speed bike,asked me for $2.00 for a cup of coffee... .................................................."uhhh,no"... ............another asked me for spare change outside a super market... ......................................i said i didn`t have any... ...................so he say`s "how about a credit card?!"......lol!!...
.. ....................what do you do,when people ask you for spare change?...
..... .. ..........................................whats the most outrageous thing... ......................................you`ve been asked forby a stranger?...
Thefunniest experience I ever had was in 1974 when I was a stranded 21 year old girl in Dublin.
Most of the city was broke back then. But being an American (and folks could usually figure that out half ablock away) you merited a fine performance from the tinker children who, with artfully smudged faces and a blanket would beg money.
Now, I'm not saying they were not needy--How could I? Iwas needy and hungry myself, behind on rent...but OMG.
So a tinker girl on the Grafton St. Bridge saw me comming and commenced chanting me up like an auctioneer as i approached, going from a few pence on up. and she made repeated offers to pray for me to the blessed virginfor my generousity.
Unfortunatelt,I paused in front of her, sorry I had no money. Big mistake. She lowered her "bid" --I still pointed out I had nothing at all. She got angry at me and changed her whole lovely patter to a stream of curses:
"Thun God-damn ye, miss. N feck off... ye tight.....et cetera."
Low as I was I had to laugh.
it seems like at least once a month he is brought up as a good example in the study wt.
it seems like he is given more praise than jesus.
have you noticed this?
That's a good point, Adam.
Essentially,what you say of ancient authors having no obligation to be factual in the modern sense is important. And they weren't even being malicious!
There is intention to deceive now--we cn know where the scriptures came from. What is being done now with this re-crafted version of the David stories for JWs is a way to keep the tribe together with new twists. (And twists and twists and twists untillll it is --twisted!) Only now people COULD be informed if only they would throw off the fear of getting kicked out for reading outside the rags mags.
at the meetings i've noticed over the past 2 years or so brothers asking for 'special blessings' for the governing body.
it was everyonce in a while at first.
now it is almost at every single meeting!
Excuse me, aren't they the MEDIATORS for the R&F?
They need intersessory prayer from the sheep?
As spotty as Jehovah is on answering prayers for the R&F, I think the GB is in big trouble.
it seems like at least once a month he is brought up as a good example in the study wt.
it seems like he is given more praise than jesus.
have you noticed this?
If you type in "House of David inscription" and search it out. In 1994 there was a basalt stele from @ 900B.C. found at Tel Dan with a reference to the "house of David".
The long bit of writing by a professor at UCLA explains the complex of issues in interpreting the writing.
There may be a kernel of truth to some of the David story, but it is thought that later writings inflated the basics. That was my take away from reading.
It seems the bible account doesn't reflect strict "Truth" unless its writers intended us to be happy with a very loose rendering of it.
hi guys.. just found out today that my landlord is selling my apartment.
he says he selling it with me as a sitting tenant, so should be okay.
i'm still a bit apprehensive as i've been here nearly 8 years and my son is in year 9 at the local school.. my mum's words of wisdom, were, of course, "jehovah will provide.".
Here's what I know: we humans are as hard to kill as cockroaches.
If you wake up tomorrow and they are throwing you out on the streets, you will scramble like hell to come right-side up. And you will, and the people who see you gutting it out will help. If they love you. And anyone with a heart will give a hand. And if no one is there--you'll live anyway and your child will keep on loving you.
That said--I hope you get to stay without any major problems,quellycatface.
Meow,I don't think Jehovah is in the mix, Maeve
imagine a world where being "gay" the norm & being "straight" would be the minority!
[short film].. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnojgdw0gpi.
Dis-member--YOU wrote that tirade against homosexuals??? The one LisaRose so eloquently answered?
!!!!after putting up that video? Did I ever misunderstand you!
How can you miss the damage to a person to be hated that way?
(sorry for untitled post before - my pc must have the demunz).
am i the only one who gets incredible irritated by the excuse "they are only human"?
geez, i had no idea.
"They are only human."
And they are prophets speaking for God? Then what does that say for the rest of the Bible? Paul, Peter, Luke, Moses, etc.?
It's a bottomless pit.
imagine a world where being "gay" the norm & being "straight" would be the minority!
[short film].. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnojgdw0gpi.
Viviane, Maybe comments are the effects of being raised "in the Truth"
Edit:No one should need an "agenda" just to live without being hated.
