When was the date 1914 ever even really seriously concidered by any but Jdubs? The only date in history I find that may fit the slot on any date is 1948.
Norval
as i haven't read any jw literature some 10 years or more now, can anyone tell me when was the last time that 1914 was seriously mentioned or discussed in a wt or book or whatever?.
and when was the last time the calculation of the "7 times" which leads to 1914 was actually put down in writing in jw lit?
has it been in a wt study article recently?.
When was the date 1914 ever even really seriously concidered by any but Jdubs? The only date in history I find that may fit the slot on any date is 1948.
Norval
i find the name "jehovah" repugnant.
if i ever hear that name again i will surely throw up!
as if "jehovah" is god's real name anyway.
Yah just have to laff sometimes about all this garbage on the name of our Creator. Just as you have a name, and have selected a name for ussage in here, I would think it reasonable that God does too? Duh?
There are many "titles" that people are called by, such as in your case "Dumb Shit" may just fit the bill? Have you graduated grade school yet?
Norval (foclmao)
anyone hear of victoria liljenquist?
weird stuff, man.
click on the "millenium message" link.. http://www.victoriaslight.com/.
Where do angels come from?
*looks up*
Where did Elijah go?
*Looks up*
Where did Jesus go?
*Looks up*
Where was Enoch taken?
*Looks up*
Where is Jesus returning from?
*Looks up*
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,
and Where do UFO's come from?
*Looks up*
For a non tech language of 2000+ years ago a "fiery charriot with fiery horses" is what? How would you describe even a light bulb, let alone a space station with humans living ,,,,,,,,,,
*Looks up* ,,,,, there^
Norval
i sent a letter today to a "heavy" in bethel regarding the un issue.
sorry for the formatting, but i'm dumping a word file... here's a section regarding the un:.
the un, steven bates, the guardian newspaper, and watchtower of new york, inc.. dan, i'm sure you are aware of some recent accusations by steven bates, a writer for the guardian newspaper (a british-based newspaper).
ROFLMAO
Norval
please note the new dpi list of ngos at the un.
you have seen the 1999-2000 and 1994 versions.
well here is the most recent list (and this is the last list you will see the wts name in the book seeing they were disassociated oct., 2001).
uhhmmmmm if the governments turn on "religions" and destroy them,,, what is all the fuss? Or does anyone here realy think the Jdubs are NOT a religion? *LMAO*
Norval
the following 2 articles taken from 2 awake issues show the selective amnesia of the wtbts.. interestingly it also shows their true view of the un yet again.. article 1.
*** g93 3/22 3-4 why so many false alarms?
why so many false alarms?.
Yes, even if ALL the Jdubs survived. (ohh those so perfect elders at judgement even) then there would still only be 1 in 166,000 if indeed 1/3 of the human race survive.
uhh huh, uhh huh, uh huh,
Norval
that one in a position of responsibility for others, could a "minister / clergy / anointed / elder" be rightious in gods eyes in having a couple concubines besides the one wife?.
norval
It is said there is councel in many. Hmmmm many wives, and or concubines would be good consule,, if you didnt have them from differing religions,,, LOL
Norval
interesting hozison programme on bbc2 last week about how new evidence is coming out that there may be parallel universes that are "needed " to explain our own.. once prominent physicist belives our universe "borrows" gravity from another universe.. but what really is happeing in physics , can it really tell us the truth about our universe?.
it seems that a lot of physics is philosophy.you think of an idea that could explain phenonoma and then see if you can make it work with mathamatics.. but as more and more complex theories are coming forward and are used to explain how the universe works it seems that any grasp on the truth of the matter is getting further and further away.when you start invocking parallel universes to explain things where do you stop?.
it seems that at least for now the universe is unexplainable.even without parellel universes you still cannot explain the origin of the universe , were it came from or why it is here.which ever way you go you get to a point in which you can never test or measure to see if you are right.. if there are parallel universes then do these need other universes to explain them?.
As I stare up at the night sky and think of the half a trillion stars in the galaxy I live in and then the half a trillion other galaxies in our know PHYSICAL universe,,, I have to ask,,,,,Isn't that enough to keep you occupied for a long enough time?
Norval
i'm not sure what the appropriate area for this post might be.
maybe it is here, since i am going to ask about your personal beliefs and practices.. it is so easy to write negative posts abut the things we hate in religion, in people's mindsets, and in the world in general.
let's try posting about positive things.
How God will make it a better world.
1. As we go for a 4 day work week God says work 6 and rest 1.
2. No voting! God appoints the Anointed, and they appoint those as they need help.
3. All the demons are locked up so they can't screw with our lives for the next thousand years. But we have all this crap to look forward to again at the end of that thousand years.
I can think of several more, but I just wanted to help get the ball rolling. *grins*
Norval
i've always been curious as to the reasons why only "the anointed" were permitted to partake of the emblems at the memorial.
we all know that the wtbts says the "other sheep" are the non-anointed christians who merely observe the memorial (by the way, by "other sheep" jesus was talking about the gentiles that would become part of the new covenant; he wasn't referring to some strange class of non-anointed christians).
they've often compared the situation to the foreigners in the congregation of israel who were not permitted to observe the passover (see exodus 12:38, 43 -- they draw this correlation because the memorial is the replacement for the passover observance).
Little children are seldom held responsible for improper usage of things till they are of age and maturity to understand. It is much like this with the so called "emblems".
When fully understood and made aware of the implications and what this really represents it becomes another mater entirley. It is wrote that those who are not truly called to be Anointed will be made sick! And if they persist in eating and drinking they become sicker and some may even die!
It is really very simple to recognize who has the calling of the Anointing and those that don't. The WTBTS and their GB may have recognized the first fruits, but they have trampled the "harvest" in doing so.
But it is all only a test of every ones integrity to our Father, and NOT to any corporation of man. The Saints don't need corporations or lands, just enough food for them and their families, a place to live, and clothes to wear. In otherwords the basics of life in comparison to their surroundings. What they can give in return for being cared for this way is their ability to render true justice and knowledge. It takes many sacrifices to aquire all that is needed to become Chosen, and not just "called"!
Norval