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VIDEO - READ CAREFULLY
by Dia inhere is a written 'view' of the video - if you listen carefully, you will hear all the holes in it.. fyi - rodney starks few comments are in caps.
my comments are in [brackets].
(wts) 'dfing is a procedure which is laid down in the bible, whereby a person who sins very seriously against god and against the congregation and who refuses to repent, refuses to change, abandon the wrong way is informed that they're no longer a part of the christian congregation'.. (stark) "i don't know the last methodist who was disfellowshipped.
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Incest accuse , witchunt?
by happy man inafter i have read a lot of this here, and evrything bill say, i must say this is a very delicat and difficult issu.
almost unbelevebel difficult.. i dont want to defend abusers, fare from that, i hate them,and think the best is to take ther balls away, but i think it is important that this not turns out to be a witchunt on men, like it was inn in sweden in the some time ago, some swedeish famus writer say this is the moderm times witchunt.. in 1600 children was turnig inn ther mothers and say they was witch, and they was burnd , who can go against children.. here some social educated peopel find when they ask children, that if they think wery carefull, they must remeber that some have abuse them when they was littel children, we have also some case where fadher was realesd from prison after the children confesd that they was lying.. so this writer say that men is modern times witch, if you understan what i meen.. intresting thaught on a very difficult issu, but i think it is easy that this thing can turn out to be a hunt .. wher even some innocent is condemd.
this was only my thaughts late inn the swedish summer .
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JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES WANT IT BOTH WAYS
by Perry inwhen individuals leave the organization for conscience reasons, it is evidence that god is shepherding and protecting the flock by doing a sifting work.
when people leave another christian religion it is evidence that the religion is morally corrupt and unable or unwilling to provide spiritually for their members.
when a christian from another denomination lies, he is acting according to his own disposition being from the father of the lie.
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Is this number really wrong? 23720
by avengers inchild molesters
on file at the home office in .. .
if these figures are wrong, will the one who has the accurate count please step forward!.
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Rodney Stark's paper on JW growth
by VM44 inrodney stark was featured briefly in the short watchtower video exposing the benificial nature of "disfellowshipping" (which is a made up word that does not appear in the bible!).
i found a 1997 paper that he wrote with larry iannaccone entitled, "why the jehovah's witnesses grow so rapidly.
a theoretical application" and which was published in the journal of contemporary religion.
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Confused
by AlphaPlus inthis is gonna take a while so bear with me .... i dunno where to start.
well i'm still a jw, still going to meetings etc although you do feel pretty bad sitting there knowing you'd like to be any place else.
like i've read from so many of you i've been the perfect jw kid excellent meeting attendence, good field service blah blah all that crap.
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It is official! I am a member!
by maximumflash ini have decided to join this board after getting to read some of the stories here.
some of you might be familiar with me through conversation with my wife, cassiline, who has been a member here for quite some time now.. let me explain a few thing about my beliefs which will be boring to some of you so it's ok if you don't read this.
i don't have a religion, i simply believe in myself and the well being of others around me.
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Need Help - New JW Pedophile Project (Links)
by Amazing inps: a poster emailed these links and i think they will help with the following project: .
the american professional society on the abuse of children.
click here: http://www.apsac.org/.
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My story - witchywoman
by witchywoman init has been many years since i was dsfsd, i have written this to my sister in hopes that she could understand some of the reasons that the relationship between my daughter and myself have been strained for so many years.
i thought that by posting this it might help someone else that might be going through some of the same things.. here is my story.hello, as i stated in my other e-mail i will dedicate this entirely to trying to explain my situation with my daughter.
i hope you don`t mind if it gets lengthy.as you probably already know i chose to be a jehovahs witness, and was one for more than 16 years.
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Trapped Miners Still Signalling...!!!
by dungbeetle inhttp://dailynews.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&ncid=716&e=6&u=/ap/20020725/ap_on_re_us/mine_accident
encouraged by a tinny tapping sound coming up from the depths, rescuers brought in a huge drill thursday in a race to save nine coal miners trapped 240 feet underground in a dark shaft filling up quickly with millions of gallons of frigid water.
crews pumped air into the 4-foot-high chamber where the men were believed to be, hoping it would buy them enough time to drill a large hole and pull survivors out of the mine 55 miles southeast of pittsburgh.. it was unknown how high the water was in the shaft, but officials said the cold water was rushing past them as they huddled in the dark.